Finding ∫sec²x dx with basic techniques.

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral ∫sec²x dx using basic calculus techniques, specifically avoiding the direct recognition of the antiderivative as the derivative of a standard function. Participants explore various methods and substitutions while expressing a desire to adhere to fundamental calculus principles.

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  • The original poster attempts to find the integral using u-substitution and expresses frustration at not being able to do so without recognizing the derivative of tan(x). Some participants suggest alternative methods, including integration by parts and different substitutions, while questioning the validity of using known derivatives as a solution.

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Participants have shared various approaches, including the use of substitutions and integration by parts. Some have provided insights into transforming the integrand, while others have acknowledged the challenge of adhering strictly to basic techniques. There is a mix of exploration and guidance, with no explicit consensus on a single method being favored.

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Participants note the challenge of finding a solution without resorting to recognized derivatives, indicating a preference for more foundational techniques. The discussion reflects a desire to engage with the problem in a way that emphasizes understanding over straightforward application of known results.

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Not really a homework problem, but this is just a problem that's been bugging me for a while: how would you find ∫sec2x dx without "cheating" and using the simple fact that d/dx tanx = sec2x? I know it's possible using integration by parts, but I'm looking for a way using calc I level techniques, like u-substitution. So far no success. Any ideas?
 
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But the most basic of all Calc I methods is to know the derivatives of the "standard" functions so you can recognize those antiderivatives on sight. So knowing the antiderivative of ##\sec^2x## on sight isn't "cheating". It is the standard Calc I method.
 
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Bohrok said:
Not really a homework problem, but this is just a problem that's been bugging me for a while: how would you find ∫sec2x dx without "cheating" and using the simple fact that d/dx tanx = sec2x? I know it's possible using integration by parts, but I'm looking for a way using calc I level techniques, like u-substitution. So far no success. Any ideas?
I don't see how arriving at an anti-derivative by recognizing that the integrand is the derivative of a standard function is "cheating" , but try the following.

This gets pretty ugly, but here goes ...

\displaystyle \sec^2(x) = 1 + \tan^2(x)
\displaystyle = 1 + \frac{\sin^2(x)}{\cos^2(x)}

\displaystyle = 1 + \frac{1-\cos(2x)}{1+\cos(2x)}​
Integrate that.

Unless I missed something, WolframAlpha does it with only substitutions (many of them). See the link: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%281-cos%282+x%29%29%2F%281%2Bcos%282+x%29%29.
 
The substitution u=sec x works.
 
Slightly deviating from SammyS's method and using substitutions,

Remember ##sec^{2}(x) = 1 + tan^{2}(x)##

$$\int sec^{2}(x) dx = \int 1+ tan^2(x)dx = \int 1 + \frac{sin^{2}(x)}{cos^{2}(x)}dx =

\int dx + \int sin(x)\frac{sin(x)}{cos^{2}(x)} dx$$

Integrating by Parts (second integral)
u = sin(x)
u'= cos(x)
v' = sin(x)/cos2(x)
v = 1/cos(x)
 
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I got some great answers, thanks.
vela, u=secx was just what I was looking for :smile:

SammyS, that method looks promising (I was close to working it out like that before), but I kept running into integrating cot2x or csc2x, which are about the same level as integrating sec2x.

BloodyFrozen, I know parts will work; I was just seeing if it was possible using more basic integration techniques in calc I.


I know in a way this problem may seem a little silly by not just using u = tanx since du = sec2x dx in the first place It's kind of like trying to work out a limit problem algebraically without resorting to l'Hôpital's rule; those are the kinds of challenging problems that I like to try working out on my own.
 

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