Finding the coefficients of a Resistance vs. Temp curve

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The discussion revolves around determining the coefficients Ro, a, and b for a resistance versus temperature curve using measurements at specific temperature points. The problem involves setting up equations based on these temperature points, specifically at 0°C, the boiling point, and the sulfur point.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to solve for the coefficients by substituting known values into equations derived from temperature measurements. They express uncertainty about the relationship between the coefficients and the complexity of the equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on forming a system of equations based on the three temperature points. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion regarding the coefficients, and a suggestion to use the known value of Ro in subsequent equations. The discussion reflects a mix of exploration and clarification without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants note that the problem involves a system of equations with three unknowns, and there is mention of the original poster's recent experience in a linear algebra course, which may have influenced their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement
Find Ro, a, and b.
Relevant Equations
R(T) = Ro (1 + aT + bT2 )
I am asked to find Ro, a, and b. Th problem states the values are determined by the measurements at the normal ice, steam and sulfur points. So I approached the problem by plugging the the temperature problems. For 0°C, Ro reduces to 7 ohms. Then for the other two non zero temperatures, it looks like I am left with a system of equations.

I am a bit stumbled because the values associated for a and b of both equations arent factors of each other, so canceling out seems a bit trickier. I don't really recall running across a problem like this before.

Am I approaching this problem correctly? If so what is a way to solve for a and b?
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You have three temperatures which means that you can write three equations, one at each temperature, and three unknowns. The first equation gives you (as you have already found) R0 = 7 Ω. Use that value in the other two equations which form a system of 2 equations and 2 unknowns a and b. Can you solve that?
 
kuruman said:
You have three temperatures which means that you can write three equations, one at each temperature, and three unknowns. The first equation gives you (as you have already found) R0 = 7 Ω. Use that value in the other two equations which form a system of 2 equations and 2 unknowns a and b. Can you solve that?
I figured it out. I actually just finished a linear algebra course and they never gave us a problem like that where the coefficients weren't perfect factors of each other.

Very noob post. Sorry lol
 
quittingthecult said:
I figured it out. I actually just finished a linear algebra course and they never gave us a problem like that where the coefficients weren't perfect factors of each other.
Yes, but don't berate yourself. You were led up the garden path. Mathematicians sometimes have a different view of the world from physicists.
 
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