Finding the displacement of a braking car, with limited variables.

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the displacement of a car that is braking, given its initial speed, final speed, and the coefficient of friction. The context is rooted in kinematics and dynamics, focusing on the relationship between velocity, acceleration, and displacement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use various equations of motion but struggles due to the absence of time. They seek assistance in deriving other variables like acceleration or time using the given data.
  • Some participants question the equations presented by the original poster, suggesting corrections and alternative approaches to find acceleration using the coefficient of friction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different equations and clarifying misunderstandings. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the friction coefficient to find acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes the difficulty in using displacement equations without knowing time or acceleration, highlighting the constraints of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A car is traveling at 120km/h when it slams on the brakes. How long is the skid mark if the coefficient of friction is 0.62?(hint: convert km/h to m/s)

Given: initial velocity: 33.3m/s; final velocity: 0m/s; coefficient of fricition: 0.62

Homework Equations


μ = Ffriction/Fnormal; a= Force/mass

The Attempt at a Solution


Because of the absense of a time value, I'm finding it very difficult to use and displacement equation I've been given. I understand the the change in velocity (after being conversted to m/s) is 33.33m/s, but that's as far as I've gotten.

I was wondering is anyone could help me derive some other variable: such as the change in time, or the acceleration, with the given data.
 
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Symon said:
A car is traveling at 120km/h when it slams on the brakes. How long is the skid mark if the coefficient of friction is 0.62?(hint: convert km/h to m/s)

Because of the absense of a time value, I'm finding it very difficult to use and displacement equation I've been given.

Hi Symon! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Is the "displacement equation" work done = force times (or "dot") displacement?

If so, you don't need the time. :wink:
 
Thus far, i am unfamiliar with that equation, here are some of the equations that I've either derived or have been given:

1) ∆d=〖(∆v)〗^2/2a
2) ∆d= ∆v∆t
3) ∆d=vi∆t+ 1/2 a〖(∆t)〗^2

As you can see, the first equation that i have neglects time, but i am unable to use it without finding the acceleration (which is another equation i need time for). Is there some alternate way i can find the acceleration, force involved, time, or mass?
 
ok … you're using the usual constant acceleration equations.

(but #1 is wrong … it should have ∆(v2), not (∆v)2, and #2 is completely wrong … replace it with ∆v = a∆t)

Yes, you can find the acceleration, a, by starting with the friction coefficient, µ = 0.62 …

that will give you the force, and then you can find the acceleration from good ol' Newton's second law. :wink:
 
Thank you :)
 
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