Finding the distance between a point and a level curve

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To find the point on the curve defined by 5/8 x^2 - 3/4 xy + 5/8 y^2 = 1 that is closest to (1, -1), the gradient vector was calculated as <(5/4x - 3/4 y), (5/4y - 3/4x)>. The discussion highlights the need for a second equation to relate the two variables, as there is one equation with two unknowns. It was noted that the problem can be approached by optimizing a function under a constraint, suggesting the use of Lagrange multipliers. This method allows for finding the minimum distance from the curve to the specified point effectively.
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Homework Statement



Find the point on the curve defined by 5/8 x^2 - 3/4 xy + 5/8 y^2 = 1

That is closest to the point (1,-1)


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The Attempt at a Solution



I started by finding the gradient vector. < (5/4x - 3/4 y) , (5/4y - 3/4x) >

I could not figure out if that was even the right direction to go in because I don't know how I'd even find a distance formula
 
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You have one equation with two unknowns, so you need another equation relating those two variables. You do have information to construct another equation: the distance from the curve to the specified point is a minimum. Write down an equation that expresses that condition, and then solve the two equations for the two unknowns.
 
ah nvm i realized its just optimizing a function with another contraining function.. i think... so i could use lagrange multipliers

thanks for your help
 
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