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The discussion focuses on estimating the first derivative of the function f(x) = 7x at the point x = 2 using the limit definition of the derivative. The correct approach involves factoring the numerator and applying the limit as h approaches 0, leading to the expression 49 * lim(h → 0) [(7^h - 1)/h]. The use of logarithms in the initial attempt is identified as incorrect, as it does not adhere to logarithmic properties. The application of L'Hôpital's Rule is suggested for evaluating the limit, which is crucial for finding the derivative accurately.

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Homework Statement



Estimate f ' (2) for 7x



Homework Equations



[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h


The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so I attempted to do this. I put in [(7(2+h))-72]/h
I must be messing up with my algebra. SO then take log of both
I got
(2+h)log7-log49 all over h
distributed log7 to (2+h) and got 1.69+ .845h - 1.69 all over h
the 1.69 canceled and I have (.845h)/h left and that can't be right because then I cancel h and got no h left to plug in for zero.

What do I do obviously I am doing it wrong.
 
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Amel said:

Homework Statement



Estimate f ' (2) for 7x



Homework Equations



[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h


The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so I attempted to do this. I put in [(7(2+h))-72]/h
I must be messing up with my algebra. SO then take log of both
I got
Taking the log is incorrect. There is no property of logs that says log(a + b) = log a + log b.

Instead, what you want to do is to factor 72 from the two terms in the numerator, giving you
[tex]\frac{7^2(7^h - 1)}{h}[/tex]
To find f'(2) you need to evaluate this limit:
[tex]\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{7^2(7^h - 1)}{h}~=~49\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{7^h - 1}{h}[/tex]
If you know L'Hopital's Rule, this limit is not too hard to evaluate, but if you don't know it, it's fairly difficult to evaluate. The expression we're taking the limit of is indeterminate of the form [0/0]. It's called indeterminate because you can't determine what the limit will actually be without some work, and can come out to be anything.

Before continuing, I need to know whether you are able to find this limit for yourself.
Amel said:
(2+h)log7-log49 all over h
distributed log7 to (2+h) and got 1.69+ .845h - 1.69 all over h
the 1.69 canceled and I have (.845h)/h left and that can't be right because then I cancel h and got no h left to plug in for zero.

What do I do obviously I am doing it wrong.
 

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