Finding the Inverse Function and Its Derivative - Analyzing f(x) at Point (1,1)

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of a function defined from R² to R², specifically focusing on finding the derivative at a point and exploring the conditions for the existence of an inverse function. The original poster presents two questions related to the inverse function theorem and the computation of derivatives.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to compute the derivative matrix and its determinant to establish the existence of an inverse function. They question whether proving the determinant is non-zero is sufficient for the first part of their question and seek clarification on the meaning of open sets in this context.
  • Participants discuss the application of the chain rule in relation to the inverse function and the need for the Jacobian matrix of the inverse function.
  • There is a discussion about how to derive the Jacobian of the inverse function and its relationship to the Jacobian of the original function.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can provide or the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on understanding the theoretical underpinnings of the inverse function theorem and the chain rule.

asif zaidi
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Hello:

My 2 questions are underlined below. I have another problem but will first wait for an answer on this before posting the other question.


Problem Statement

Consider the function f:R2->R2 defined by
f(x1,x2) = ( exp (x1-x2) + x[tex]^{2}_{1}[/tex]x2 + x1(x2-1)[tex]^{4}[/tex],
1 + x[tex]^{2}_{1}[/tex] + x[tex]^{4}_{1}[/tex] + (x1x2)[tex]^{5}[/tex] )

Q1- Find Df(x1,x2) at point (1,1) and show that there are open sets (1,1)[tex]\in[/tex] U and f(1,1)[tex]\in[/tex] V such that f:U->V has an inverse g

Q2- Compute Dg(f(1,1))

Solution

First, I can compute the matrix Df(x) by taking the partial derivatives wrt x1, x2 and then take its determinant evaluated at x= (1,1).
If I evaluate it at (1,1) it comes out to A = [3 0 ; 11 5]

Second, the determinant of A is 15 which is != 0. So an inverse exists at this point.

My question for Q1 above: is it sufficient to prove that if det !=0 then an inverse exists. Is this all the question is askign. What does the question mean when asking to show there are open sets (1,1) [tex]\in[/tex] U ...

My question for Q2 above: Dg(f(1,1)) = inv(A) evaluated at (1,1). Is this correct

Thanks

Asif
 
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Q1 is just the inverse function theorem.
Q2 is a special case of the chain rule.
 
For Q2:

For a chain rule, don't I need a matrix for g. How do I get this?

Is this g matrix, the inverse of f evaluated at (2,4) <-- I get this from f(1,1) = (2,4)
And multiply this by Df(1,1)

Thanks

Asif
 
Well, you can formulate the chain rule in terms of the jacobian evaluated at p.

J(f○g)(p) = J(g)(f(p))*J(f)(p)
 
Thanks... yes I think got the Jacobian part.
However, what I am not getting is how do I get 'g'.

BTW, I assume you are saying p=f(1,1)Thanks

Asif
 
No, my p in your case is (1,1).

What happens on the left side when g is f's inverse?
What can you then do to solve for J(g)(f(p))?
 
When g is f's inverse, all I have to do is take inverse of f matrix evaluated at (1,1). This will give me the Jg(f(p)). Is this right?
What I had missed was the Jf(p)

Thanks

Asif
 
If g is f's inverse, then J(f○g)(p) = Id
So
Id = J(g)(f(p))*J(f)(p)
Then
J^(-1)(f)(p) = J(g)(f(p))
 

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