Finding the output of a derivative using integration by partial fractions

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The problem involves finding the derivative of a quadratic function given specific conditions related to an integral. The integral in question is of the form \(\int \frac{f(x)}{x^2(x+1)^3}dx\), where \(f\) is a quadratic function and the goal is to ensure the result is a rational function.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the integral being a rational function, questioning the conditions that would eliminate logarithmic terms from the result. They discuss the setup of partial fractions and the relationships between coefficients.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their reasoning and calculations. Some have offered insights into the conditions necessary for the integral to yield a rational function, while others are verifying their approaches and interpretations of the problem.

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There is an emphasis on ensuring that the coefficients of logarithmic terms equal zero to satisfy the condition of the integral being rational. Participants are also working under the constraint of the quadratic function's properties and the specific value of \(f(0)\).

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Homework Statement



If f is a quadratic function such that f(0) = 1 and
[tex]\int \frac{f(x)}{x^2(x+1)^3}dx[/tex]
is a rational function, find the value of f '(0).



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This question is presented in the context of learning about integration by partial fractions.

For the quadratic bit I have

[tex]f(x) = ax^2 + bx + c[/tex] [tex]f(0) = a(0)^2 + b(0) + c = c = 1[/tex][tex]f'(x) = 2ax + b[/tex] [tex]f'(0) = 2a(0) + b = b[/tex]

So, I need to find the value of b? Plugging the integral into Wolfram|Alpha gives me

[tex]\int \frac{ax^2+bx+c}{x^2(x+1)^3}dx = -\frac{a-b+c}{2(x+1)^2} + \frac{b-2c}{x+1} + (b-3c)ln(x) - (b-3c)ln(x+1) - \frac{c}{x} + K[/tex]

I'll write out the work for the integral by hand when I submit the assignment. For now, I'm not sure how to relate f '(0) = b with any of this to find b, if it is b that I need to find. Thanks for commenting!
 
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If the integral is going to be a rational function, then it shouldn't have any logs in it. What condition will make that true?
 
Dick said:
If the integral is going to be a rational function, then it shouldn't have any logs in it. What condition will make that true?

I don't know.

I messed around with this a bit more and here's what I have.

[tex]\frac{ax^2+bx+c}{x^2(x+1)^3} = \frac{A}{x} + \frac{B}{x^2} + \frac{C}{(x+1)} + \frac{D}{(x+1)^2} + \frac{E}{(x+1)^3}[/tex]

[tex]ax^2 + bx + c = A(x)(x+1)^3 + B(x+1)^3 + C(x^2)(x+1)^2 + D(x^2)(x+1) + E(x^2)[/tex]

From there, using the method of partial fractions, you would expand, group, and factor, right? Then setup a system of equations?

And here's what I have just integrating with the unknown coefficients.

[tex]\int \frac{ax^2+bx+c}{x^2(x+1)^3} = Aln|x| - \frac{B}{x} + Cln|x+1| - \frac{D}{x+1} - \frac{E}{2(x+1)^2}[/tex]
 
Another thought. When x = 0 in the quadratic,

[tex]a(0)^2 + b(0) + c = A(0)(0+1)^3 + B(0+1)^3 + C(0^2)(0+1)^2 + D(0^2)(0+1) + E(0^2)[/tex]

simplifies to

[tex]c = B = 1[/tex]

I'm not sure what that tells me. I'll think about it.
 
Dick said:
If the integral is going to be a rational function, then it shouldn't have any logs in it. What condition will make that true?

Alright I thought about this again. For the integral to be a rational function, the coefficients on the logs need to equal zero.

so

[tex]\int \frac{ax^2+bx+c}{x^2(x+1)^3} = A\cdot ln|x| - \frac{B}{x} + C\cdot ln|x+1| - \frac{D}{x+1} - \frac{E}{2(x+1)^2}[/tex]

simplifies to, given B = 1 above,

[tex]= -\frac{1}{x} - \frac{D}{x+1} - \frac{E}{2(x+1)^2}[/tex].

But I don't think that bit in particular gets me anywhere. However, I can use the fact that A = 0, B = 1, and C = 0 to rewrite

[tex]ax^2 + bx + c = A(x)(x+1)^3 + B(x+1)^3 + C(x^2)(x+1)^2 + D(x^2)(x+1) + E(x^2)[/tex]

as

[tex]ax^2 + bx + c = (x+1)^3 + D(x^2)(x+1) + Ex^2[/tex].

Now I can expand, group, and factor the right-hand side of the equation to get the following (if I did my work correctly)

[tex]0x^3 + ax^2 + bx + c = Dx^3 + x^3 + Dx^2 + Ex^2 + 3x^2 + 3x + 1[/tex] [tex]0x^3 + ax^2 + bx + c = (D + 1)x^3 + (D + E + 3)x^2 + 3x + 1[/tex]At this point can I say that b = 3, which is the answer to the problem statement?
 
octowilli said:
Alright I thought about this again. For the integral to be a rational function, the coefficients on the logs need to equal zero.

so

[tex]\int \frac{ax^2+bx+c}{x^2(x+1)^3} = A\cdot ln|x| - \frac{B}{x} + C\cdot ln|x+1| - \frac{D}{x+1} - \frac{E}{2(x+1)^2}[/tex]

simplifies to, given B = 1 above,

[tex]= -\frac{1}{x} - \frac{D}{x+1} - \frac{E}{2(x+1)^2}[/tex].

But I don't think that bit in particular gets me anywhere. However, I can use the fact that A = 0, B = 1, and C = 0 to rewrite

[tex]ax^2 + bx + c = A(x)(x+1)^3 + B(x+1)^3 + C(x^2)(x+1)^2 + D(x^2)(x+1) + E(x^2)[/tex]

as

[tex]ax^2 + bx + c = (x+1)^3 + D(x^2)(x+1) + Ex^2[/tex].

Now I can expand, group, and factor the right-hand side of the equation to get the following (if I did my work correctly)

[tex]0x^3 + ax^2 + bx + c = Dx^3 + x^3 + Dx^2 + Ex^2 + 3x^2 + 3x + 1[/tex] [tex]0x^3 + ax^2 + bx + c = (D + 1)x^3 + (D + E + 3)x^2 + 3x + 1[/tex]At this point can I say that b = 3, which is the answer to the problem statement?

Yes, f'(0)=b=3. But you didn't need to go through all of that. Look at the integral in your original post. If the log parts are going to vanish you need to have (b-3c)=0. Since you already figured out that c=1. That tells you b=3.
 
Dick said:
Yes, f'(0)=b=3. But you didn't need to go through all of that. Look at the integral in your original post. If the log parts are going to vanish you need to have (b-3c)=0. Since you already figured out that c=1. That tells you b=3.

Haha, well, it was fun to do it the long way too! Thanks for helping Dick!
 

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