Finding the Smallest N for a Precise Partial Sum in a Series

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To find the smallest positive integer N such that the partial sum of the series is within 10^-10 of the actual sum, the key is to use the properties of alternating series. The error in the partial sum can be estimated by the absolute value of the next term, which must be less than 10^-10. The series in question is geometric, allowing for a straightforward calculation of its sum. The absolute value of the term can be simplified to (1/4)^(n-1) < 5^-10, and taking the natural logarithm will help solve for N. Understanding the use of absolute values in this context is crucial for accurate calculations.
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determine the smallest positive integer N such that the partial sum is within 10^-10 of the series sum.

{Sigma} 2(-1/4)^(n-1) < 10^-10

ok divide the 2 out

(-1/4)^(n-1) < 5^-10


I know i have to take the natural log like so:
(n-1) ln|-1/4| < nl|5^-10|

But there's the negative 1/4, how do i get it to be positive? i get the right answer when its positive but I am not sure how to do it.
 
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It's an alternating series sum{a_n}. You have an error estimate for the partial sum up to n in terms of |a_(n+1)|. Note the absolute value.
 
mattmannmf said:
determine the smallest positive integer N such that the partial sum is within 10^-10 of the series sum.

{Sigma} 2(-1/4)^(n-1) < 10^-10
Is \sum 2 (-1/4)^{n-1} the sum? You have stated this wrong- you don't want the partial sum, which is what you have here, to be less than 10^{-10}, you want its difference from the actual sum to be less than 10^{-10} but have then done that.

One way to do that is to find the actual sum. That is not difficult because this is a "geometric" series and there is a formula for the sum.

But, better, as Dick says, because this is alternating + and -, the "error" is always less than the next term. You just want to find n so that the absolute value of the next term is less than 10^{-10}

ok divide the 2 out

(-1/4)^(n-1) < 5^-10


I know i have to take the natural log like so:
(n-1) ln|-1/4| < nl|5^-10|

But there's the negative 1/4, how do i get it to be positive? i get the right answer when its positive but I am not sure how to do it.
\left|\left(-\frac{1}{4}\right)^{n-1}\right|= \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)^{n-1}&lt; 5^{-10}
 
so all i have to do is take the absolute value, THEN take the natural log? and solve from there pretty much
 
mattmannmf said:
so all i have to do is take the absolute value, THEN take the natural log? and solve from there pretty much

Pretty much, yes. Provided you understand why that works.
 
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