Finding the volume of these figures

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of two geometric figures: a tetrahedron with a triangular base and a pair of intersecting spheres. The original poster expresses difficulty in approaching these problems, particularly in the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants suggest slicing the tetrahedron into horizontal pieces and describe how the dimensions change with height. For the spheres, they propose slicing the intersection into circular sections and using trigonometric relationships to express the radius. The original poster questions specific terms and concepts, indicating a need for further clarification.

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Some participants have offered guidance on potential methods for approaching the problems, while the original poster continues to seek clarification on specific aspects of the solutions. There is an acknowledgment of varying approaches, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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The original poster mentions that these problems were assigned as a challenge by their teacher, indicating a potential lack of prior exposure to similar problems. They express a desire for detailed explanations and show uncertainty about the calculus concepts involved.

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Find the volume of the described figures

1. A pyramid with height h and base an equilateral triangle with side a (a tetrahedron).

2. Find the volume common to two spheres each with radius r, if the center of each sphere lies on the surface of the other sphere.

These are hard problems and I really do not know what to do. Our teacher gave this to us as a challenge and I really would like to know how to solve these two. I hope you can help me by explaining each important step you will take. I hope you can make it detailed as much as possible. I really am having a hard time in Calculus. Thanks! :)
 
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For 1): you can slice the tetrahedron horizontally into pieces of height dz. Then each piece will again be an equilateral triangle whose sides decrease from a at z = 0 to 0 at z = h.

For 2): you can slice the intersection of the spheres into circles of thickness d\theta whose radius r(\theta) increases from r(\theta = -\pi / 2) = 0 to r(\theta = 0) = r (see attachment) and you can use some fancy trig work to find the expression for r(theta).
 

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It was you the teacher was challenging, not us! There are a number of different ways to do these problems ranging from looking up standard formulas to using Calculus as CompuChip suggests.
 
CompuChip said:
For 1): you can slice the tetrahedron horizontally into pieces of height dz. Then each piece will again be an equilateral triangle whose sides decrease from a at z = 0 to 0 at z = h.

For 2): you can slice the intersection of the spheres into circles of thickness d\theta whose radius r(\theta) increases from r(\theta = -\pi / 2) = 0 to r(\theta = 0) = r (see attachment) and you can use some fancy trig work to find the expression for r(theta).

I'm sorry but I don't exactly get it. I'm really having a hard time in Calculus right now.

For #1, what is dz? Just a representation for height? and I can't picture properly the tetrahedron I need to slice.

For #2, I really don't get it. I'm sorry.

I hope you'll still explain it to me.
 
I got the 1st one already. Only #2 left.
 
Here is another hint, hopefully it clarifies a bit better what I meant.
The volume of the little circular disc (actually, it's a cylinder with radius r and thickness dtheta) that I drew is \pi r^2 \, d\theta. Of course you'll have to express r as a function of theta before you do the integration (and find the appropriate limits for theta).
 

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