Finding Volume in Positive Octant using Multiple Integration

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume bounded by the planes defined by the equations 2x + z = 3 and y + 3z = 9 in the positive octant, where x, y, and z are all greater than or equal to zero. Participants are exploring the limits of integration for a multiple integral setup.

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the limits for integration, starting with y and x, but expresses uncertainty about the limits for z. Some participants question the order of integration and suggest that z should be the outer integral, while others discuss the need to identify the maximum value for z based on the given planes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the limits of integration and the potential need to split the integral based on the intersection of the planes. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in visualizing the 3D object and determining the correct boundaries.

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Participants note the challenge of deciding limits for a 3D object and the lack of explicit instructions regarding the order of integration. There is also mention of previous experiences with similar problems, indicating varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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okay, I'm not as bad at this as all the questions make me out to be lol

here's the question I've got...

Find the volume bound by 2x+z=3 and y+3z=9 in the positive octant, i.e. x, y and z >=0

what i tried was finding the limits on y first. i got from 0 to 9-3z
for x : 0 to [itex]\frac{z-3}\2[/itex]

but then for z i can't find any.

saying that, i don't think the first two are right. I've always had trouble deciding the limits for a 3D object. Any help on the limits would be appreciated.
 
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What is your order of integration? Since you have limits of integration for x and y that depend on z, I assume that z is the "outer integral". In that case, the limits of integration, for z, must be constant. It's clear that the lower limit is z= 0. What is the largest possible value for z?

However, I'm not certain that the single integral will give the correct value. It looks to me like you are going to need to break this into two integrals at the place where the two planes intersect.
 
There isn't an order specified, but I would also assume that z would be the outer integral.

Am i right in saying that the largest value for z would be 3, so the z limits are 0 to 3?
 
i've looked at this question again, and I don't know what you mean by splitting it up. I've never had a question like that before.
 
first integrate from 0 to y=9-3z with respect to y, then 0 to 3-2x with respect to z, then find numerical boundaries of the domain with respect to x, from zero to...you should be able to figure it out. All of the info is self contained, one is covering all of the volume elements of the specified boundary. The function to integrate is simply 1. Kinda remember this from multivariable which I took this past semester.
 

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