Finding Volume Using Polar Coordinates: Inside Sphere and Outside Cylinder

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid defined by being inside a sphere described by the equation x²+y²+z²=16 and outside a cylinder defined by x²+y²=4, using polar coordinates.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up a double integral for the volume but questions the limits of integration and the function being integrated. Other participants raise questions about the range of r, the dimensionality of the integration, and the meaning of symbols used in the setup.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup of the integral, with some clarifying the implicit integration of z and others expressing concerns about the expected results compared to their calculations. There is acknowledgment of different interpretations regarding the volume calculation.

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Some participants note the constraints of using double integrals as specified in the problem context, and there is discussion about the geometric relationships between the sphere and cylinder affecting the volume calculation.

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Homework Statement



Use polar coordinates to find the volume of the given solid.

Inside the sphere x²+y²+z²=16 and outside the cylinder x²+y²=4.

Homework Equations



x=rcosΘ,y=rsinΘ, x²+y²=r²

The Attempt at a Solution



2∫∫ (√(16-r²)r)drdΘ R{(r,Θ)l 0<Θ<2∏, 2<r<4}

I was wondering if this is the correct set up. I solved the equation for the sphere for z, and then substituted my x²+y², and I used that as the function which I want to integrate under because Its the function that goes the highest. Then I figured that the radius was going from 2 to 4 because that is the radius of each of the shapes. I chose to go from 0 to 2pi because I know that I need to roatate 360 degrees. I multiplied by two because i know the functions are symmetric.
 
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1) Why does r not vary from 0 to 4? (EDIT: I overlooked the cylinder)

2) Why do you have only two integrals if your integrating over a region in three-dimensional space?

Remember that in general the volume of some solid S in three dimensional space is given by
[tex] V = \int_S dx dy dz = \int_S r drd\Theta dz[/tex]
So the third question:

3)Why is the function you are integrating - √(16-r²)r) - different from r?
4) What does the capital R in your formula mean?
 
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I had it not vary from 0 to 4 because it has to be inside the sphere but outside the cylinder which has a radius of 2. It is in two integrals because the problems at this point in the book only want you using double integrals.
 
Ok, as I see it now you had implicitly performed the z-integral
[tex] \int_0^{\sqrt{16-r^2}}dz=\sqrt{16-r^2}[/tex]

already.

Then the set-up looks correct to me.
 
Awesome. Thank you so much.
 
You're welcome. If you want your final result checked just post it.
 
sounds good. After the first integral I am getting (2/3)*(12)^(3/2), and then when I do the second integral I end up getting (4/3)*(12)^(3/2)*pi.

That answer worries me a little bit because I would expect it to be equal to this (4/3)*pi*4³-pi*2²*2*sqrt(2) but its not.
 
EV33 said:
sounds good. After the first integral I am getting (2/3)*(12)^(3/2), and then when I do the second integral I end up getting (4/3)*(12)^(3/2)*pi.

That answer worries me a little bit because I would expect it to be equal to this (4/3)*pi*4³-pi*2²*2*sqrt(2) but its not.

Why would you expect that? The answer
[tex] \frac{4}{3}12^{3/2}\pi = 32\sqrt{3}\pi[/tex]
is correct.

The volume you consider is NOT the volume of the sphere minus the volume of the cylinder because at the poles the cylinder is not contained in the sphere.
 
oh I see what you are saying. I don't know why I didn't realize that. Thank you.
 

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