Fluid Mechanics: Pressure Question

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The discussion revolves around a fluid mechanics problem involving tire pressure and the behavior of gases under varying temperatures. The original poster presents a scenario with specific conditions and seeks assistance in estimating pressures and calculating the mass of air in a tire.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the combined gas law to estimate pressure changes with temperature. They express uncertainty regarding the second part of the problem, specifically how to calculate the mass of air in the tire. Some participants question how to determine the volume of the tire, suggesting that knowing this would facilitate the use of the ideal gas law. Others provide guidance on considering the shape of the tire as a torus and suggest straightforward methods for volume calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have offered guidance on calculating volume, while the original poster continues to seek clarity on the steps needed to proceed with the calculations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive suggestions are being exchanged.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the volume of the tire, which is not directly provided in the problem statement. The original poster's uncertainty about the volume calculation is a significant point of discussion.

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Homework Statement



A tyre pressure gauge indicates 20 N/cm2 for a tire at 34°C after a fast motorway run. Assuming that the volume of the air in the tyre is constant, atmospheric pressure is 760 mmHg and the air gas constant is 0.287 kJ/kg.K:

i) Estimate the indicated pressure when the tyre has cooled to 10°C.

ii) If the tyre is treated as a tube of cross-sectional area 0.015 m2 rolled into a ring of mean diameter 0.035 m, estimate the mass of air in the tyre.

Homework Equations

Combined Gas Law:

\frac{p_1V_1}{T_1}=\frac{p_2V_2}{T_2}

Equation of State for Ideal Gas:pV = mRT

The Attempt at a Solution



For i)

Converting units into SI and recognising volume = constant gives:

\frac{p_1}{T_1}=\frac{p_2}{T_2}

\frac{p_1T_2}{T_1}=p_2

\frac{(200kPa)(283.15K)}{307.15K}=p_2

p_2 = 184kPa

I am unsure how exactly how to proceed with ii)

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Do you know how to calculate the volume inside the tire given the data in part ii?

If you know the volume, the temperature, and the pressure, can you calculate the mass of air consistent with these properties?
 
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SteamKing said:
Do you know how to calculate the volume inside the tire given the data in part ii?

If you know the volume, the temperature, and the pressure, can you calculate the mass of air consistent with these properties?

I am unsure of how I would calculate the volume -- which is particularly annoying, as I am aware that would solve my problem by application of the ideal gas law.
 
The shape of the tube is called a torus. Think of it as a cylinder with the ends connected. Calculate the volume in the obvious, straightforward fashion.
 
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Thanks for the help.
 

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