Fluid mechanics question and the Bernoulli Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the Bernoulli Equation in fluid mechanics, specifically addressing questions Q2 and Q3 related to pressure calculations in a tank and pipe system. Participants are seeking clarification on pressure values and the relationships between different points in the system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the formula P=Patm+qgh is appropriate for calculating the absolute pressure at point 1, expressing confusion over obtaining a value greater than 100 Pa.
  • Another participant agrees that using the formula results in a pressure significantly higher than 100 Pa and expresses frustration over the computer's acceptance of their answer.
  • There is a claim that the pressure at point 2 is not equal to the pressure at point 1 due to the velocity increase at point 2, leading to a lower pressure at that point.
  • A participant requests clarification on the questions being discussed, indicating difficulty in reading the provided images.
  • One participant mentions they have a similar result for Q1, suggesting a possible shared understanding or approach to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the pressure values at points 1 and 2, with one asserting that they are not equal due to velocity effects, while others are uncertain about the calculations for Q2 and Q3. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the pressure relationships.

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Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding pressure calculations and the conditions affecting the pressure at different points in the system. There is also a lack of clarity on the specific questions being addressed, which may affect the discussion.

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Fluid mechanics question and Bernoulli Equation
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Q2 and Q3
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Good afternoon,

I am struggling to find the solution at Q2 and Q3. For Q2 the absolute pressure at point 1 is at the bottom of the tank, so do i need to use the formula P=Patm+qgh ? If using this formula I've got a bigger number than 100Pa.
Same issue for Q3, isn't the pressure at point 2 equal the one at point 1, being at the same height? The question mention that the answer should be within 500 Pa.

Thank you
 

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Franklie001 said:
I am struggling to find the solution at Q2 and Q3
I suppose Q2 is in the first picture ?
I find it a struggle to even read the questions in the second picture. Can you type them out ? At least Q3 ?

Franklie001 said:
If using this formula I've got a bigger number than 100Pa
Yes, 105 + ##\rho g \Delta h\ ## is a lot more than 100. Is your answer not accepted ? I get the same. I resent that the dumb computer doesn't see units.

I also get the same for Q1 (almost :smile:: 16.27 kg/s)

Please post your work.

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The pressure at point 2 is not equal to the pressure at point 1. At point 2 (immediately inside the pipe) the velocity has built up in the approach to to the pipe (within the tank) from zero at point 1 (and other locations at the bottom significantly removed from the pipe entrance) to full pipe velocity at point 2. So the pressure at point 2 is significantly lower than at point 1.
 
Hello Chet ! You apparently have been able to read Q3. But OP asks about Q2 (which is legible) as well.

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