Best way to learn fluid mechanics while in high school

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The discussion centers on how a high school student can effectively learn fluid mechanics, particularly focusing on the mathematics involved in fluid dynamics and the Navier-Stokes equations, within a limited timeframe. The conversation explores various resources and approaches to understanding these concepts, including potential flow theory and computational methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the student will need to bridge their calculus knowledge to classical mechanics and then to fluid mechanics, emphasizing the importance of understanding partial differential equations.
  • Another participant mentions the availability of YouTube videos on the Navier-Stokes equation and boundary conditions, recommending resources like 3blue1brown for visual explanations.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of mastering fluid dynamics in under a month, suggesting that a more methodical approach through a degree in engineering would be more effective.
  • One suggestion is to explore potential flow theory as a simpler alternative to the Navier-Stokes equations, noting that while it lacks viscosity considerations, it is more straightforward.
  • Another participant humorously suggests practical experience, such as working with sprinkler or plumbing systems, as a way to engage with fluid mechanics.
  • One participant proposes that the student could create a small computer program to compute velocities and pressures around a cylinder, referencing potential flow problems and panel methods as useful concepts.
  • A later reply clarifies that while panel methods are a type of potential flow solution, they do not encompass all potential flow problems, indicating a need for precision in terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility of learning fluid dynamics in a short time frame, with some suggesting it is possible through simplified approaches, while others argue it is unrealistic without a more extensive background in the subject. There is no consensus on the best method or resources for learning.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding fluid dynamics, including the complexity of the Navier-Stokes equations and the trade-offs between simplicity and accuracy in modeling fluid flow. The discussion reflects varying levels of mathematical preparedness and the challenges of self-study in advanced topics.

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Hi,

I am a high school student doing a project on fluid dynamics and need to understand the relevant maths so that I can understand how to apply the mathematics of fluid flow (particularly air flow around a cylinder). I have a basic calculus understanding and need to understand the navier stokes equations in depth and any other maths to be able to create a mathematical model of air flow around a cylinder. What is the best and most efficient way to have a mathematical understanding of the fundamentals of fluid dynamics maths in under a month? E.g. through online videos, textbooks (and if so, which textbooks are good that aren't too advanced)?
 
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Your problem will be bridging your calculus to classical mechanics and then to fluid mechanics and learning about partial differential equations along the way.

There are videos on youtube about the Navier-Stokes equation and how folks apply various boundary conditions to come up with a simpler equation to model.

Some history:



Intro to Navier-Stokes:





To give you an idea of the partial differential equations and how the Navier Stokes was derived:



3blue1brown has several video collections that you should check out:

 
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DylCG10 said:
I have a basic calculus understanding and need to understand the navier stokes equations in depth and any other maths to be able to create a mathematical model of air flow around a cylinder. What is the best and most efficient way to have a mathematical understanding of the fundamentals of fluid dynamics maths in under a month?
Sounds like a pretty challenging (and fun) project. Maybe @boneh3ad has some suggestions on ways to simplify the project to make it more practical to accomplish in that short timeframe...
 
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DylCG10 said:
I have a basic calculus understanding and need to understand the navier stokes equations in depth... What is the best and most efficient way to have a mathematical understanding of the fundamentals of fluid dynamics maths in under a month?

This is a fool's errand. You won't get this in under a month. Your best bet is to finish 3 years of a BS in one of several flavors of engineering if you want to approach this in an effective, methodical way.

DylCG10 said:
...to be able to create a mathematical model of air flow around a cylinder.

You may be in luck due to this portion of your request. You can get a lot of good information on this topic by first exploring potential flow theory. You won't capture any physics related to viscosity that way, but it is orders of magnitude more straightforward than the Navier-Stokes equations. Whether it is sufficient depends on why exactly you want to do this.
 
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get a job putting in sprinkler and /or plumbing systems ;)
 
Or, take swimming lessons.

Studying fluid mechanics itself is very much going in at the deep end.
 
In the limit case that you are interested in making a small computer program to compute some velocities and pressures around a cylinder without the time to go into the details of partial differential equations, have look at this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_flow_around_a_circular_cylinderThe basic idea behind solving potential flow problems is that you can compute the potential flow around an object by using combinations of simple and well known solutions and add them to get the solution of your more complicated problem. This method is also called a panel method.

Here are some lecture notes that will show you how you can compute some flows around simple objects.

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/fluids/Lectures/f15.pdf
Please also look into the limitations of potential flow: in models there is usually a trade-off between simplicity and accuracy.
 
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bigfooted said:
In the limit case that you are interested in making a small computer program to compute some velocities and pressures around a cylinder without the time to go into the details of partial differential equations, have look at this page:
The basic idea behind solving potential flow problems is that you can compute the potential flow around an object by using combinations of simple and well known solutions and add them to get the solution of your more complicated problem. This method is also called a panel method.

It's not the same as a panel method. A panel method is one application of potential flow, but not all potential flow problems use panel methods. Panels are one example of a class of simple solutions you can add together but they aren't the only solution.
 

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