Flux through oddly shaped cylinder

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The discussion focuses on calculating the flux through an oddly shaped cylinder using surface integrals and cylindrical coordinates. The user attempted to redefine the differential area element and parameterize the surface using the equations x = (1/2) cos(θ) and z = sin(θ). The correct approach involves using the position vector and calculating the cross product of the tangent vectors to derive the vector differential of surface area, dA. The final integral setup is provided, which includes the limits for t and θ, leading to the evaluation of the flux integral.

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Here are my attempt.
The top is when i tried using cylindrical coordinates. Instead of using dA=(cosθ i +sinθj)rdzdθ
I used (cosθ i +sinθk)rdydθ since the cylinder is going along the y-axis rather than z.
The bottom is when i tried using dA=(-fx i - fy +k)dx dy

The oddly shaped cylinder is what's throwing me off.

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I would suggest setting
[tex] x = \frac 12 u \cos v \\<br /> z = u \sin v [/tex]
for [itex]u \geq 0[/itex], [itex]v \in [0, 2\pi][/itex] so that [itex]4x^2 + z^2 = u^2[/itex].
 
You don't seem to have a firm grasp on "surface integrals". For one thing, there is no "r" here. If, as you appear to be doing, you want to use polar (it's certainly what I would do) then to get "[itex]4x^2+ z^2= 1[/itex]", you will need to use [itex]x= (1/2) cos(\theta)[/itex], [itex]z= sin(\theta)[/itex] (with [itex]\theta[/itex] from [itex]-\pi/2[/itex] to [itex]\pi/2[/tex] to keep z positive). That way, when x is squared, the "1/2" squared will cancel the "4". Of course, we can just take y= t, say, from -1 to 1 (or just keep "y" as the parameter).<br /> <br /> With [itex]x= (1/2)cos(\theta)[/itex], [itex]y= t[/itex], [itex]z= sin(\theta)[/itex] then we can write a "position vector" for any point on the surface as [itex]\vec{r}= (1/2)cos(\theta)\vec{i}+ t\vec{j}+ sin(\theta)\vec{k}[/itex] in terms of the two parameters t and [itex]\theta[/itex].<br /> <br /> The derivatives, with respect to t and [itex]\theta[/itex]<br /> [tex]\vec{r}_t= \vec{j}[/tex]<br /> [tex]\vec{r}_\theta= -(1/2)sin(\theta)\vec{i}+ cos(\theta)\vec{k}[/tex]<br /> are tangent to the surface.<br /> <br /> The cross product of those vectors, [itex]cos(\theta)\vec{i}- (1/2)sin(\theta)\vec{k}[/itex], is perpendicular to the surface and gives the "vector differential of surface area", [itex]d\vec{A}= (cos(\theta)\vec{i}- (1/2)sin(\theta)\vec{k})d\theta dt[/itex]<br /> <br /> The integrand vector is [itex]2xy^2z\vec{i}+ 2cos(z)\vec{j}+ 3\vec{k}[/itex] which, in terms of t and [itex]\theta[/itex] is [itex]cos(\theta)sin(\theta)t^2\vec{i}+ 2cos(sin(\theta))\vec{j} + 3\vec{k}[/itex] so that the integral becomes<br /> [tex]\int_{t= -1}^1\int_{\theta= -\pi/2}^{\pi/2} \left(cos^2(\theta)sin(\theta)t^2- \frac{3}{2} sin(\theta)\right)d\theta dt[/tex]<br /> [tex]= \left(\int_{-1}^1 t^2dt\right)\left(i\int_{-\pi/2}^{\pi/2} cos^2(\theta)sin(\theta)d\theta\right)- \frac{3}{2}\left(\int_{-1}^1 dt\right)\right(\int_{-\pi/2}{\pi/2} sin(\theta) d\theta\right)[/tex][/itex]
 

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