Force and Power Required to Lift an Elevator Car

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force and power required to lift an elevator car. The key equations used include P = W*V and Fnet = ma, with a velocity of 3.0 m/s and a weight of 29.9 kg. Participants clarify that the additional force needed to overcome gravity and produce upward acceleration must be calculated to determine the motor's power output. The correct approach involves calculating the additional force first, which is approximately 32.94 N, and then using this value to find the power. The final power output calculation confirms the answer of 98.8 kW is correct.
Lori
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Homework Equations



P = W*V
Fnet = ma
V = 3.0 m/s
W = 29.9[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I think i got this wrong, but I want you to check if my answer is right :(

Heres what i did:

So,

P = force * velocity
P =force*3.0 m/s

force = force due to gravity + acceleration (net force) is F = ma = 29.9??

P = (29.9*3) = 89.6 kW
 

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Lori said:
force = force due to gravity + acceleration
Yes
Lori said:
= 29.9??
Isn't that just the given mg?
 
haruspex said:
Yes

Isn't that just the given mg?
Yeah! That's why I'm unsure of my answer :*(
 
Lori said:
Yeah! That's why I'm unsure of my answer :*(
So what additional force is required to produce the acceleration?
 
haruspex said:
So what additional force is required to produce the acceleration?

Would it be Faddition - 29.9 = m*a where m = 29.9/9.81
so Fadditional = 32.94

Do i use the Fnet to calculate the power or the Fadditional? I think i would have to use P = Fadditional * velocity because I'm trying to find the power of the motor specifically, so the force it should do is Fadditional right? I get the answer 98.8 which is one of the answers!
 
Lori said:
Would it be Faddition - 29.9 = m*a where m = 29.9/9.81
so Fadditional = 32.94
Not sure how you are defining Faddition there. I intended it to mean the extra force, beyond matching gravity, needed to produce the acceleration. Is that how you are defining it? It does not seem so.
Lori said:
Do i use the Fnet to calculate the power or the Fadditional?
The motor does not understand gravity. All it "understands" are the force it exerts and the speed with which it reels in the cable.
 
First calculate force required to produce upward acceleration of 1m/s^2 then u can easily calculate power.
Lori said:
Would it be Faddition - 29.9 = m*a where m = 29.9/9.81
so Fadditional = 32.94

Do i use the Fnet to calculate the power or the Fadditional? I think i would have to use P = Fadditional * velocity because I'm trying to find the power of the motor specifically, so the force it should do is Fadditional right? I get the answer 98.8 which is one of the answers!
 
Abhishek kumar said:
First calculate force required to produce upward acceleration of 1m/s^2 then u can easily calculate power.
The force upwards is 32.95 I found, so if I multiply it by 3 will I get the power output?
 
Lori said:
The force upwards is 32.95 I found, so if I multiply it by 3 will I get the power output?
Yes.
 
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Lori said:
The force upwards is 32.95 I found, so if I multiply it by 3 will I get the power output?
Yes u had done it
 

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