Force Applied to Masses Suspended by Springs: Find Displacements

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving two masses suspended by springs, where a downward force is applied to the lower mass. For part (a), participants suggest using free body diagrams to analyze the forces acting on each mass to find the displacements d1 and d2 at equilibrium. The equations of motion for part (b) are identified as simple harmonic motion (SHM) equations, with initial conditions to be determined after the force is removed. The community emphasizes the importance of understanding the equilibrium state before applying additional forces. The problem is noted as a challenging exercise, particularly highlighted as a Caltech problem.
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Homework Statement



A pair of masses M1, M2 is suspended vertically by a pair of spring, with spring constant k1, k2. ( see the attachment for the picture)

a.A downward force F is applied to bottom mass. Find the downward displacements d1 and d 2 of the equilibrium positions of the Mass M1and M2 due to the force. Note that effect of gravity is already taken into account in determing the equilibrium positions.


b.At time t =0, the downward force is removed. What are the equation of motion and initial conditions that determine the displacements d1(t) and d2(t) for t greater than 0? You need not solve the equations.


Homework Equations



m2g=k2x2
k2x2 + m2g+ m1g=k1x1
then i added them, I get 2m2g +m1g=k1x1

F=-kx

The Attempt at a Solution



m2g=k2x2
k2x2 + m2g+ m1g=k1x1
then i added them, I get 2m2g +m1g=k1x1.
after this, I hav no idea how to solve this! please help!
 

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Btw, this is a Caltech problem!
 
For A, try creating separate free body diagrams for m_1 and m_2 and finding \Sigma F_y=F_{app}. Then, solve each for d_1 and d_2.
 
a) Both springs will experience force F. Since they are already in equilibrium you can "ignore" the masses.
F=k_1d_1
F=k_2d_2
b) Simple SHM equations.
 
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