Force between two electromagnets due to direct flux and radial flux

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the force between two electromagnets with rectangular cross-sections, specifically examining the forces due to direct flux and radial flux. Participants are seeking to understand the theoretical and practical aspects of this interaction, including the conditions under which these forces can be calculated or modeled.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests information on the force between two electromagnets, specifically looking for formulas or sources related to both direct and radial flux.
  • Another participant suggests that simplifying the situation may yield answers, noting that the presence of iron and the proximity of the magnets are important factors.
  • A later reply clarifies the scenario involves one fixed and one moving electromagnet, with a focus on determining the forces at both the initial position and during rotation.
  • Some participants indicate that without further details or simplifications, a general solution may not be available and that reliance on FEM software might be necessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the ability to calculate the forces involved, with some suggesting simplifications while others indicate that a general case solution is not readily available.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions made about the electromagnets, such as the presence of iron and the specific configurations of the magnets. There are also unresolved mathematical steps regarding the calculation of forces in dynamic situations.

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I want to know about the FORCE BETWEEN TWO ELECTROMAGNET OF RECTANGULAR CROSS-SECTION. The force due to the fluxes both direct face to face and radial separately. Also I like to get the exact formula or the source from where I get that. Can anyone help me? pls.
 
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Well, if you can simplify the situation, then there are answers. For instance:

- If your magnets have no iron

- If your magnets have iron and are close enough, and preferably you know the induction

So if you give more details, maybe you get an answer. In the general case, there is none. You'd have to rely on an FEM software.
 
At first ,Thanks for ur reply
ie situation is two electromagnets. One is fixed other is moving. At first they are in face to face. Then the moving magnet start rotating in its on axis. I want to find out the force at initial position and force when it moving also.
If u have any idea pls reply.
 

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