What is the force acting on a rotating body in a non-inertial frame?

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The discussion focuses on the forces acting on a rotating body in a non-inertial frame, specifically addressing the equation for the total force, which includes gravitational, Coriolis, and centrifugal forces. The second to last term in the force equation is questioned, with participants suggesting it relates to torque and angular acceleration. The mention of torque is linked to the equation τ = Iα, indicating a connection between the forces and the rotational dynamics of the body. Participants seek clarification on the derivation of this term, emphasizing its importance in understanding the overall force acting on the rotating body. The conversation highlights the complexity of analyzing forces in non-inertial frames.
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Hello! The angular velocity in the non-inertial frame of a rotating body of mass m is ##\Omega## and I need to find the force acting on the body (in the non-inertial frame associated with the body). In the book they say (without any derivation, they just state it) that the force is: $$\bar{F}=m\bar{g}+2m\bar{v}\times\bar{\Omega}+m(\bar{r}\times\bar{\dot{\Omega}})+\frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{r}} \frac{m( \bar{\Omega}\times \bar{r} )^2}{2}$$ So we have gravity, Coriolis force and centrifugal force. But what is the second to last term and how do you derive it? Thank you!
 
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The ##\dot\omega## shlould give you a clue
 
BvU said:
The ##\dot\omega## shlould give you a clue
Well it looks like something associated with a torque
 
Ever hear of ##\vec \tau = I\vec \alpha## ?
 
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