Forces on Pendulum: Resolving mg & T

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The discussion centers on the conflicting interpretations of forces acting on a pendulum bob, specifically the tension (T) and gravitational force (mg). Two approaches are presented: one resolves the weight into components leading to T = mgcos(x), while the other suggests mg = Tcos(x). Both interpretations are incorrect, as the correct relationship involves the radial acceleration (ma_r) and the tension in the cord. The accurate equation is ma_r = mgcos(x) - T, with a_r = -L\dot{x}^2 representing the angular motion of the pendulum.

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I find that the forces acting on a pendulum bob are treated in two different (contradictory?) ways.
Let the angle that the cord makes with the vertical be x, the mass of the bob m and the tension in the cord T.
1. In one case, the weight of the bob is resolved into components so that mgcos(x) is along T, so T = mgcos(x).
2. In another case, the tension is resolved into ITS components, so that mg = Tcos(x).
Obviously only one of them can be correct at one time. I can't figure out which of them to use and when.
I am a physics teacher, by the way.
Thanks in advance.
 
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midlifephy said:
1. In one case, the weight of the bob is resolved into components so that mgcos(x) is along T, so T = mgcos(x).
Why do you think that statement is true?
"mgcos(x) is along T" does not imply "T = mgcos(x)"
Draw a free body diagram.
 
midlifephy said:
I find that the forces acting on a pendulum bob are treated in two different (contradictory?) ways.
Let the angle that the cord makes with the vertical be x, the mass of the bob m and the tension in the cord T.
1. In one case, the weight of the bob is resolved into components so that mgcos(x) is along T, so T = mgcos(x).
2. In another case, the tension is resolved into ITS components, so that mg = Tcos(x).
Obviously only one of them can be correct at one time. I can't figure out which of them to use and when.
I am a physics teacher, by the way.
Thanks in advance.
Neither of these two are correct.

[tex]ma_r = mgcos(x) - T[/tex]
[tex]a_r = -L\dot{x}^2[/tex]
 

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