Foucault pendulums -- ordering the part that connects the string to the ceiling

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around sourcing a specific part for a Foucault pendulum experiment, particularly focusing on a component that connects the pendulum string to the ceiling while allowing for free rotation with minimal friction. Participants explore various options for constructing or purchasing this part, as well as considerations for the pendulum's weight and movement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about where to order a part that connects the string to the ceiling, emphasizing the need for low friction and no hardwired connection.
  • Another participant suggests using commercial ball or roller bearings and mentions repurposing parts from non-driven wheels of bicycles or vehicles.
  • A participant expresses interest in a mini pendulum experiment and specifies the need for a mechanism that allows lazy Susan-like movement just below the ceiling.
  • Another participant clarifies that fixing the outer race of a bearing to the ceiling and attaching the pendulum to the inner race would achieve the desired movement.
  • One participant seeks recommendations for retail stores to purchase bearings, mentioning Home Depot, Lowes, and Pep Boys.
  • A suggestion is made to consider old hard drives as a source for quality ball bearings suitable for light loads.
  • A participant references an old book that may contain useful information for the project but expresses confusion regarding a specific method described in it.
  • Another participant mentions a preference for purchasing ball bearings from Ebay.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a low-friction connection for the pendulum, but there are varying opinions on the best materials and methods to achieve this. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach and specific sources for the required parts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of different materials and methods, and there is a lack of consensus on the best solution for the pendulum's connection to the ceiling.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for hobbyists or educators interested in building a Foucault pendulum or exploring the mechanics of pendulum motion and rotation.

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Do you know where I can order a part that connects string to the ceiling? The part has to be rotate free with very tiny friction. Inside the part may be air filled or vacuum. There has to be no hard wired connection between the ceiling and the part.

I would make one if I know how.

Hope someone would reply disregarding my ignorance. I know the experiment is interesting...fantastic to prove the Earth is rotating.
 
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How heavy of a pendulum are you thinking about? I'd expect that commercial ball or roller bearings would work... maybe try taking apart a non-driven wheel from a junk bicycle, motorcycle, or automobile?
 
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How heavy of a pendulum are you thinking about? I'd expect that commercial ball or roller bearings would work... maybe try taking apart a non-driven wheel from a junk bicycle, motorcycle, or automobile?

Small. I might consider mini pendulum experiment.

I am focused right on the ceiling. An inch or less from the ceiling. Something right below ceiling has lazy Susan movements. I need that part with these movements. I am aware taping a thread or string directly to the ceiling is not possible.

Your suggestion about ball bearing is acceptable. It acts like bob on the end of the pendulum right near the floor. I am talking about the top ceiling.

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I'm talking about the top ceiling too. Fix the outer race of the bearing to the ceiling horizontally, attach the top of the pendulum to the inner race, and you'll have the lazy Susan movement you're looking for.
 
Oh, I see. Thank you for making it clear. Do you know of a retail store where I can purchase bearings? Home Depot? Lowes? Pep Boys? Or your suggestion?
After purchase, I will rig up the inner to pendulum and outer race to the ceiling of the bearing and then watch it. As long as it responds to the Earth rotation, I will be satisfied although it won't be accurate due to friction and other factors.
 
For a light load you might consider finding an old hard drive. They have some really nice ball bearings inside.

BoB
 
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Rbelli1, good thought. I prefer to try Ebay. They have some ball bearings.
Paul Davis, it may not be a good reading for me. It says about a ferrule attached to a string. I cannot understand how it works without ball bearing thou Foucault managed to do it In his days.
 

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