Full Bridge Inverter: Got the answer by 1 method, but not by another

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analysis of a full bridge inverter, specifically comparing two methods for calculating output voltage and current. Participants explore the implications of using Fourier analysis versus a direct application of the inductor current formula, addressing the characteristics of the current waveform and the role of diodes in the circuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the peak output voltage using Fourier analysis and finds a discrepancy when using the inductor current formula.
  • Another participant suggests that the current waveform is triangular and that the Fourier analysis approximates this triangular wave to a sinusoidal form, which may explain the differences in peak values.
  • A participant references a relationship between the peak values of sinusoidal and triangular waveforms, proposing a method to relate the two based on Fourier analysis.
  • Questions arise regarding the function of diodes in the circuit, with one participant explaining their role in maintaining smooth current across the inductor and preventing high reverse potential across switches.
  • Discussion includes the potential differences in circuit behavior depending on whether unidirectional or bidirectional switches are used, with implications for the operation of diodes in the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the Fourier method for this analysis and the nature of the current waveform. There is no consensus on the best approach to calculate the output current or the implications of using different types of switches in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the Fourier analysis may not yield the same peak values as the direct inductor current calculation due to the approximations involved. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the type of switches used in the inverter circuit, which may affect the role of diodes.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Fourier and then V(output) = 4Vs/(n*3.14) * sin (nwt) where Vs is battery here it's 400V
Current = V(output) / X(L). Here X is 2*3.14*100*0.2

The Attempt at a Solution


I got V(output) = 4*400/3.14 = 509.55V This is fundamental Peak output voltage.
So Current peak = 509.55 / impedance. Impedance = 2*3.14*100*0.2 = 125.6 Ohm
So Current peak = 509.55 / 125.6 = 4.06A
But this is not in option.

If i use other method of V = L di/dt
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Here for time interval by green line
400 = 0.2 * di/dt
dt = time interval in green part = time period / 4. Frequency = 100 Hz. So Time period = 0.01 seconds
So dt = T/4 = 2.5 milli seconds
So 400 = 0.2 * di / dt
This gives di = 5 A.

But why don't i get correct answer if I go by above method of fourier?
 

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With all ideal components, I think you're correct in saying the current waveform will be triangular. So your analysis using L.di/dt should be right.

In your analysis using Fourier's fundamental component, you are approximating that trianglar wave to a sinusoid, so you can't expect the peak values to be the same. The formula is one you copied from someone else's analysis, is it? There is, of course, a fixed relation between the peak value of a symmetrical triangular wave and the peak value of its first harmonic (the fundamental). So maybe you could work backwards: knowing the peak value of its fundamental component, what would be the peak value of the Fourier-related triangular wave?
 
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The formula for Fourier I used of Resistive load. Yeah you're right it would be different.
From google i got
I(sinusoidal) = 8/(3.14)2 I(triangular)
So I got I(sinusoidal) = 4.06 times I (triangular)
So I (triangular) = 4.06 * 3.14 * 3.14 / 8 = 5.009 A
 
What do the diodes do here?
 
Diodes help maintain current smooth across inductor. If diodes are removed they'll be high reverse potential across switches which may cause boom.
In figure below, left diagram is when switches are conducting and right diagram is when diodes are conducting. Current through inductor is left to right.
After time T3, the current through inductor reverses.
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If you were using unidirectional switches¹ for T1...4 then you would need the diodes to be conducting for the full ¼ cycle as you describe. They could be described as "freewheeling diodes".

But if you were able to build the circuit using 4 bidirectional switches² or ideal switches then you could operate each pair of switches for a full ½ cycle at a time, meaning T1,3 or T2,4 would be carrying current practically all the time, and subjecting the diodes to only brief spikes of current during switch changeover, then you could call them protection diodes.

¹ such as ordinary transistors
² such as FETs
 
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