Fourier Transform of Hermitian Operators

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the Fourier Transform (FT) of Hermitian operators, particularly whether the FT of a Hermitian operator remains Hermitian. Participants explore various aspects of this topic, including specific examples like the density operator and the relationship between position and momentum operators.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the Fourier Transform of a Hermitian operator is also Hermitian, citing the density operator as a counterexample.
  • Another participant notes that the Fourier Transform of a real function is not necessarily real but adheres to a "reality condition" where F*(w) = F(-w).
  • A participant asserts that the position (x) and momentum (p) operators are Fourier Transforms of each other and both Hermitian.
  • In response, another participant disagrees, stating that the x and p operators are not Fourier Transforms of each other.
  • One participant outlines rules regarding the Fourier Transform of various types of functions, detailing how real and imaginary functions relate to Hermitian and anti-Hermitian properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the Fourier Transform of Hermitian operators retains Hermitian properties, with some asserting it does and others challenging this notion. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical properties and conditions related to Hermitian and anti-Hermitian operators, but there are no consensus definitions or resolutions regarding the application of these properties to the Fourier Transform.

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Question: Is the Fourier Transform of a Hermitian operator also Hermitian?
In the case of the density operator it would seem that it is not the case:

[tex]\rho(\mathbf{r}) = \sum_{i=1}^N \delta(\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r}_i)[/tex]

[tex]\rho_k = \sum_{i=1}^N e^{-i\mathbf{k} \cdot \mathbf{r}}[/tex]

I have a hard time believing that the FT wouldn't be Hermitian though since an obverservable in one space should be an observable in another space.
 
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The FT of a real function is not real, but satisfies a "reality condition"
F*(w)=F(-w).
 
but aren't the x and p operators Fourier Transforms of each other AND Hermitian?
 
The operators are not FT of each other.
 
These are the rules:

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Function                   Fourier transform

Real and Even       --->   Real and Even
Real and Odd        --->   Imag and Odd
Imag and Even       --->   Imag and Even
Imag and Odd        --->   Real and Odd
Arbitrary Real      --->   Hermitian
Arbitrary Imag      --->   AntiHermitian

Hermitian is (Real and Even) plus (Imag and Odd).The application of an Hermitian operator is:

1) A convolution with an Hermitian function in position space.
2) A multiplication with an arbitrary Real function in momentum space.The application of the position operator is:

1) The multiplication with a Real and Odd function (= x ) in position space.
2) The convolution with an Imag and Odd function (= -ihd/dp) in momentum space. The application of the momentum operator is:

1) The convolution with an Imag and Odd function (= -ihd/dx ) in position space.
2) The multiplication with a Real and Odd function (= p) in momentum space. Regards, Hans
 
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