Fraction of Energy Lost in Inelastic Collision | Hockey Puck Problem

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In the hockey puck problem, a 0.2 kg puck strikes a stationary identical puck, with initial and final velocities of 3.8 m/s and 0.8 m/s respectively. The conservation of momentum equation is applied, leading to the determination of the final velocity of the second puck as 3 m/s. The initial and final kinetic energies are calculated, revealing a loss of energy of 0.48 J. To find the fraction of energy lost, the correct approach involves dividing the energy lost by the initial total energy, which the participants are struggling to express correctly. Understanding the calculation of energy fractions is essential for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement



One hockey puck of mass 0.2 kg strikes an identical stationary puck on a frictionless ice rink. If the first puck had a velocity V0 = 3.8 m/s before the collision and V1 = 0.8 m/s after in the same direction, what fraction of the energy was lost?

Homework Equations


Conservation of momentum m1v1 + m2v2 = m3v3 + m4v4
Work energy theorem k = (1/2) mv^2 or (mv)^2/2m


The Attempt at a Solution


3.8 + 0 = .8 + 3
(I left out mass becuase all objects have the same mass.)

I am pretty much stuck becuase I do not know the final velocity of V2, and if there was energy lost then V2 shouldn't equal 3 m/s.
 
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Hi sirfinklstin! Welcome to PF! :wink:
sirfinklstin said:
3.8 + 0 = .8 + 3

I am pretty much stuck becuase … if there was energy lost then V2 shouldn't equal 3 m/s.

Why not?? :confused:

What is your energy equation? :smile:
 
u almost solved the problem...
v1= 3.8
v2=0...bcoz stationary given
v3=0.8
and v4 u have to find out...final velocity of other mass...
which u got 3

now jus find difff between initial and final energy
wats d problm??
 
Ok, thanks for the help with that, i thought a loss of energy would mean less than 3 m/s for V4, here is what I have now -

puck 1 before collision
(1/2)(.2)(3.8)^2
1.444

puck 2 before collision
(1/2)(.2)(3.8)^2
0

puck 1 after collision
(1/2)(.2)(.8)^2
.064

puck 2 after collision
(1/2)(.2)(3)^2
.9

loss of energy = .48J

is this correct?
 
looks good! just convert that into a fraction...
 
(48/100)j ?
 
"what fraction of the energy was lost?"
 
So, how to calculate fraction of the energy was lost? I'm lost :(
 
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