Free Fall Problem: Calculating Projectile Motion from a Cliff Edge

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A pellet gun is fired downward from a 13 m cliff, striking the ground at 30 m/s. Participants discuss the correct approach to calculate how high the pellet would have ascended if fired upward. Energy conservation principles are suggested as a method to determine the initial velocity, indicating that potential and kinetic energy remain constant. There is confusion regarding the appropriate equations to use, with a focus on correcting misunderstandings about projectile motion and terminal velocity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of applying energy conservation to solve the problem accurately.
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Help! Free Fall Problem

A pellet gun is fired straight downward from the edge of a cliff that is 13 m above the ground. The pellet strikes the ground with a speed of 30 m/s. How far above the cliff edge would the pellet have gone had the pellet been fired straight upward?
 
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What have you done so far?
 
I started using the equation :

y=-1/2 gt^2-30t+0
 
are you assuming that 30 m/s is not the pellets terminal velocity?
 
Have you learned about energy conservation yet? If so then you can use it to find what the "muzzle velocity" is. Basically it says that \frac{1}{2}mv^2_{final} - mg \times 30 = \frac{1}{2}mv^2_{initial}, i.e. potential + kinetic energy is constant.
 
yes, I'm assuming that 30m/s is not the pellets terminal velocity
 
shawonna23 said:
I started using the equation :

y=-1/2 gt^2-30t+0

Hmmm, that's not the right equation - did you understand the remarks Tide made about energy conservation?
 
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