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Doc Al said:
Yes, the triangle you've drawn is incorrect. (But the direction of the force and tangent line are correct, which is what I was focusing on. Sorry about not pointing that out!) Since you are finding components of the weight, you must draw a new right triangle in which the weight is the hypotenuse.

Sanity check: A vector must always be bigger (or at least equal to) its components. So when drawing a right triangle to find components, the components must be the smaller sides, not the hypotenuse.

Ok. I drew my triangle with the mg. I found the components to be:

x = mgcos30
y = mgsin30

We're looking for the x component as the acceleration, so then we can go: mgcos30 = ma. Cancel out the masses, solve for acceleration.

a = gcos30
a = 8.5units/s^2

Right? (Please say yes... ha ha)
 
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AJDangles said:
Ok. I drew my triangle with the mg. I found the components to be:

x = mgcos30
y = mgsin30

We're looking for the x component as the acceleration, so then we can go: mgcos30 = ma. Cancel out the masses, solve for acceleration.

a = gcos30
a = 8.5units/s^2

Right? (Please say yes... ha ha)

I'm thinking this would make sense because at angles of 0 and 180, the acceleration is equal to gravity.
 
AJDangles said:
Ok. I drew my triangle with the mg. I found the components to be:

x = mgcos30
y = mgsin30

We're looking for the x component as the acceleration, so then we can go: mgcos30 = ma. Cancel out the masses, solve for acceleration.

a = gcos30
a = 8.5units/s^2

Right? (Please say yes... ha ha)
Right! (or yes, if you prefer!)
 
Alright! Last question, I promise: Why is it that the x component gives you the acceleration? I realize that I got the right answer but I'm not so sure as to how I got it. I just assumed it was that way because when you put in cos(0)*9.8 you got 9.8. Which makes sense because the circle is completely vertical at that point.
 
AJDangles said:
Alright! Last question, I promise: Why is it that the x component gives you the acceleration?
All you're doing is applying Newton's 2nd law in the tangential direction. For the tangential forces (the x-direction), the only force is the x-component of the weight. So:
ƩFx = max
mg cosθ = max

So... ax = g cosθ

Let me know if this gets at your question. If not, ask again.
 
Doc Al said:
All you're doing is applying Newton's 2nd law in the tangential direction. For the tangential forces (the x-direction), the only force is the x-component of the weight. So:
ƩFx = max
mg cosθ = max

So... ax = g cosθ

Let me know if this gets at your question. If not, ask again.

Ok... I think I get it now. Thanks a lot. Just one more picture to make sure my triangle is in the right spot:
 

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