Frist says Taliban can not be defeated. Bush say it will be defeated

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The discussion revolves around contrasting statements made by U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and President George W. Bush regarding the military situation in Afghanistan and the Taliban. It explores themes of political alignment, military strategy, and foreign policy in the context of the ongoing conflict.

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Main Points Raised

  • Bill Frist argues that the war against the Taliban cannot be won militarily and suggests integrating the Taliban into the Afghan government due to their popular support.
  • George W. Bush expresses confidence in ultimately defeating the Taliban and terrorists, despite acknowledging setbacks in Afghanistan.
  • Some participants express confusion over how both leaders can be seen as aligned given their conflicting statements regarding the feasibility of defeating the Taliban.
  • One participant questions the current administration's Middle East policy and highlights perceived inconsistencies in the U.S. stance towards different nations and groups.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the alignment of Frist and Bush's positions, with some asserting they cannot both be correct. There is no consensus on the effectiveness or coherence of U.S. policy in the region.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects differing interpretations of political statements and the implications for U.S. military strategy, without resolving the underlying complexities of the situation.

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Is the Bush administration and the Senate on the same page? It appears that they aren't even in the same book.

October 3rd.
QALAT, Afghanistan -- U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Monday that the Afghan war against Taliban guerrillas can never be won militarily and called for efforts to bring the Islamic militia and its supporters into the Afghan government.

The Tennessee Republican said he learned from briefings that Taliban fighters are too numerous and have too much popular support to be defeated on the battlefield.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0610030092oct03,1,2117792.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

September 29th
WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush, delivering the latest in a series of speeches on the war on terrorism, admitted to setbacks in Afghanistan on Friday, particularly in the training of police. But he predicted ultimate victory over resurgent Taliban forces there and against terrorists everywhere.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,115329,00.html

Apparently Bush doesn't attend the same briefings. Our so called leaders are totally disfunctional.
 
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I completely agree with both these men. So I'd have to answer, yes; they are on the same page and it is the page I'm on.
 
LURCH said:
I completely agree with both these men. So I'd have to answer, yes; they are on the same page and it is the page I'm on.
Just so I am clear on your position.

Are you happy with the current administrations ME policy, and it's execution?

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So the slogan now is "Either your with us or your against us, unless you are the Taliban".

Or "We make no distinction between terrorists and the nations that shelter them, unless your Pakistan."

Care to explain why these exceptions?

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LURCH said:
I completely agree with both these men. So I'd have to answer, yes; they are on the same page and it is the page I'm on.

Hmm Frist said that it is impossible to defeat the Taliban just 5 days after Bush said we will defeat the Taliban. And you agree with both of them.:rolleyes: Sorry but you can't have it both ways.

Did you really read the post or are you being facetious?
 
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