Fundamental theorem of calculus in terms of Lebesgue integral

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The discussion revolves around the necessary and sufficient conditions for the equality involving the Lebesgue integral and differentiation, specifically the expression F(x) = d/dx ∫_a^x F(y) dy. Participants explore the implications of this equality and the properties of functions involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the restrictions on the function F for the equality to hold, initially misstating the relationship between F and its derivative.
  • Another participant points out the confusion in the initial question and clarifies that the correct form involves F equating to its integral.
  • A later reply discusses relevant theorems from Kolmogorov & Fomin's work, stating that the indefinite integral of a Lebesgue integrable function is absolutely continuous and that if F is absolutely continuous, then its derivative is Lebesgue integrable.
  • The same participant mentions a lemma regarding absolutely continuous nondecreasing functions, suggesting that if such a function has a derivative of zero almost everywhere, it must be constant.
  • Participants are encouraged to seek clarification on definitions, indicating potential differences in terminology between sources.

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There is no consensus on the necessary and sufficient conditions for the equality to hold, and participants express differing views on the implications of the theorems discussed.

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Participants reference specific theorems and lemmas, indicating that the discussion may depend on particular definitions and interpretations of absolute continuity and Lebesgue integrability.

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What restrictions must we place on a real-valued function [tex]F[/tex] for

[tex] F(x) = \frac{d}{dx} \int_a^x F'(y)dy[/tex]

to hold, where "[itex]\int[/itex]" is the Lebesgue integral?
 
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Your question is confusing (also misstated). You have F = F'.
 
mathman said:
Your question is confusing (also misstated). You have F = F'.

You're right. Sorry. What I meant to ask was what are necessary and sufficient conditions for the equality

[tex] F(x) = \frac{d}{dx} \int_a^x F(y)dy[/tex]

to hold, when the integral is the Lebesgue (not the Riemann) integral.
 
I learned the relevant theorems via Kolmogorov & Fomin's Introductory Real Analysis, which is actually a translated and edited version by Richard Silverman. Apparently Silverman added the chapter on differentiation theory, since the material seems to be taken almost directly from Riesz-Nagy's functional analysis text, I think.

Anyways, the first relevant theorem is the following:

(*)The indefinite integral [itex]F(x) = \int_{a}^{x}f(t)\,dt[/itex] of a Lebesgue integrable function f is absolutely continuous.

This direction is pretty easy to prove, and the relevant idea is the continuity of the Lebesgue integral.

The other relevant theorem, which is apparently due to Lebesgue, is the following:

(**)If F is absolutely continuous on [a,b], then the derivative F' is Lebesgue integrable on [a,b], and

[tex]F(x) = F(a) + \int_{a}^{x}F'(t)\,dt.[/tex]

At least the way I learned it, the bulk of this proof rests in the following lemma:

If f is an absolutely continuous nondecreasing function on [a,b] such that f'(x) = 0 almost everywhere, then f is constant.

Combining (*) and (**) gives you a possible characterization of what you're looking for. If you're unclear about the relevant ideas involved, wikipedia is probably your best bet. Feel free to ask me about any particular definitions that might need clarification, since I know Kolmogorov & Fomin sometimes use definitions that are different but equivalent to those found in more modern texts.
 

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