G contains a normal p-Sylow subgroup

In summary, the conversation discusses the properties of a non-abelian finite group $G$ with a non-trivial center $Z$. It is shown that if $G/Z$ is a $p$-group, then $G$ contains a normal $p$-Sylow subgroup and $p$ divides the order of the center $Z$. The conversation also explains the reasoning behind these properties and clarifies doubts regarding the existence and uniqueness of Sylow subgroups in $G$.
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Hey! :eek:

Let $G$ be a non-abelian finite group with center $Z>1$.
I want to show that if $G/Z$ is a $p$-group, for some prime $p$, then $G$ contains a normal $p$-Sylow subgroup and $p\mid |Z|$.

We have that $$|G/Z|=p^n, n\geq 1\Rightarrow \frac{|G|}{|Z|}=p^n\Rightarrow |G|=p^n|Z|$$ That means that there are $p$-Sylow in $G$, right? (Wondering)

Now we have to show that there is only one $p$-Sylow, or not? (Wondering)

How could we do that? (Wondering)
 
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Let $P$ be a Sylow p subgroup of $G$. Then $PZ/Z$ is the Sylow p subgroup of $G/Z$; i.e. $G=PZ$. Then easily $P$ is normal in $G$. Then also $Z(P)\subseteq Z(G)$ and so p divides the order of the center of G.
 
  • #3
johng said:
Let $P$ be a Sylow p subgroup of $G$. Then $PZ/Z$ is the Sylow p subgroup of $G/Z$; i.e. $G=PZ$.

Why is $PZ/Z$ the Sylow p subgroup of $G/Z$ and not $P/Z$ ? And why does it hold that $G=PZ$ ? (Wondering)
 
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For $G$ any finite group and $p$ any prime,

1. If $G$ is a $p$ group, then $G$ is the Sylow $p$ subroup.

2. If $N$ is any normal subgroup of $G$ and $P$ is a Sylow $p$ subgroup of $G$, then $PN/N$ is a Sylow $p$ subgroup of $G/N$.

So in your problem, $G/Z$ is the Sylow $p$ subgroup of $G/Z$ and $PZ/Z$ is a Sylow $p$ subgroup. So $G/Z=PZ/Z$ and thus $G=PZ$.
 
  • #5
johng said:
1. If $G$ is a $p$ group, then $G$ is the Sylow $p$ subroup.

Do you mean that in that case there is just one Sylow subgroup? (Wondering)
johng said:
2. If $N$ is any normal subgroup of $G$ and $P$ is a Sylow $p$ subgroup of $G$, then $PN/N$ is a Sylow $p$ subgroup of $G/N$.

Why does it hold that then $PN/N$ is a Sylow $p$ subgroup of $G/N$ ? (Wondering)
 
  • #6
johng said:
Let $P$ be a Sylow p subgroup of $G$. Then $PZ/Z$ is the Sylow p subgroup of $G/Z$; i.e. $G=PZ$. Then easily $P$ is normal in $G$. Then also $Z(P)\subseteq Z(G)$ and so p divides the order of the center of G.

Isn't it as follows? (Wondering)

Since $G/Z$ is a $p$-group, it contains $p$-Sylow subgroups, say $P$.
From the correspondence theorem we have that there is a bijective mapping between the subgroups of $G$ that contain $Z$ and the subgroups of $G/Z$,
$$\phi (A)\mapsto A/Z, \ A\in G$$
So, the corresponding $p$-Sylow of $G$ exists and it is the $PZ$, right? (Wondering)
 

1. What is the definition of a normal p-Sylow subgroup?

A normal p-Sylow subgroup in a group G is a subgroup of G that has the highest possible order of p in the subgroup, and is also a normal subgroup of G. This means that it is closed under the group operation and conjugation by elements of G.

2. How do you determine if G contains a normal p-Sylow subgroup?

To determine if a group G contains a normal p-Sylow subgroup, you can use the Sylow theorems. These theorems state that if p is a prime factor of the order of G, then G contains a subgroup of order p. If this subgroup is also normal, then it is a normal p-Sylow subgroup of G.

3. What is the significance of G containing a normal p-Sylow subgroup?

The presence of a normal p-Sylow subgroup in a group G can provide important information about the structure of G. It can also help in understanding the factorization of the order of G and can be useful in proving other theorems about the group.

4. Can a group G contain more than one normal p-Sylow subgroup?

Yes, a group G can contain more than one normal p-Sylow subgroup. However, the normal p-Sylow subgroups must be conjugate to each other. This means that they are essentially the same subgroup, just written in different ways.

5. Is the existence of a normal p-Sylow subgroup in a group G guaranteed?

No, the existence of a normal p-Sylow subgroup in a group G is not guaranteed. It depends on the order of G and the prime factor p. For example, if p does not divide the order of G, then G will not contain a normal p-Sylow subgroup.

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