Game Theory Q: Proving Player Win w/Axiom of Choice

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The discussion revolves around an infinite game where players choose between 0's and 1's, creating a binary sequence that represents a real number between 0 and 1. Player 1 wins if the sequence corresponds to a number in a specific set E, while Player 2 wins if it falls outside of E. The Axiom of Choice is mentioned as a means to demonstrate the existence of a set E for which the game lacks a definitive value. Participants raise concerns about ambiguities in representing real numbers, such as the equivalence of 0.999... and 1, and seek clarification on the implications of these ambiguities for determining a winner. The conversation highlights the complexities of defining winning conditions in the context of infinite games and the role of set theory in resolving these issues.
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Hey PF!

Can you help me with something:

Players alternately choose 0's or 1's. A play of this infinite game is thus a sequence of 0's and 1's. Such a sequence can be considered as the binary expansion of a real number between 0 and 1. Given a set ##E## of real numbers satisfying ##0 < x < 1 \forall x \in E##, say that player 1 wins if the play corresponds to a number in ##E## and player two wins if the way corresponds to a number in ##[0,1] \backslash E##.

Evidently the Axiom of Choice implies there exists a set ##E## for which the game has no value. Can you help me out with showing this?
 
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1. What about ambiguities similar to 0.99999...=1, for example the two sequences 011111... and 100000, which both correspond to the real number 0.1?

2. If this ambiguity is resolved, it is certain that either player 1 or player 2 wins, since every real number in [0,1] lies in either E or its complement. But you meant perhaps something else with the "value" of the game?
 

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