Gauss' Law -- How did he come up with it?

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The discussion revolves around the origins of Gauss's Law, specifically the equation εΦ=Qenc, where Φ represents electric flux and Qenc is the enclosed charge within a Gaussian surface. Participants explore whether Gauss's formulation was derived from experimental work or theoretical insights, delving into related concepts such as Maxwell's equations and the Divergence Theorem.

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  • One participant questions whether Gauss's Law emerged from experimental work or theoretical development.
  • Another participant references Faraday's experiment from 1837, suggesting it influenced Gauss's formulation, while noting Gauss's mathematical sophistication in generalizing the law.
  • There is a discussion about the differential form of Gauss's Law and its relation to Maxwell's equations and the Divergence Theorem, with one participant indicating that understanding these concepts is crucial for a deeper grasp of Gauss's work.
  • A later reply elaborates on the mathematical underpinnings of Gauss's Law, discussing the divergence of electric fields and the implications of the delta function in the context of electromagnetism.

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Participants express differing views on the origins of Gauss's Law, with some attributing it to experimental findings and others emphasizing its theoretical aspects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which Gauss's work was influenced by earlier experiments versus theoretical advancements.

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Some participants acknowledge a lack of deep understanding of Maxwell's equations and the Divergence Theorem, which may limit their grasp of Gauss's Law. There are also references to mathematical concepts that may not be fully explored or agreed upon.

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How did Gauss came out with his law εΦ=Qenc,where Φ is the flux and Qenc is the net charge inside the gaussian surface?Was it an experimental work or just a theoretical one? thanks.
 
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amjad-sh said:
How did Gauss came out with his law εΦ=Qenc,where Φ is the flux and Qenc is the net charge inside the gaussian surface?Was it an experimental work or just a theoretical one? thanks.

It is unclear how far back do you want to start here. First of all, do you know the differential form of Gauss's Law, which is one of the 4 equations that are collectively known at "Maxwell Equations"?

If you do, then do you know the Divergence Theorem that allows you to go from the differential form into the integral form?

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ZapperZ said:
It is unclear how far back do you want to start here. First of all, do you know the differential form of Gauss's Law, which is one of the 4 equations that are collectively known at "Maxwell Equations"?

If you do, then do you know the Divergence Theorem that allows you to go from the differential form into the integral form?
OK.Yes I know Maxwell's equations and the divergence theorem but i didn't go deep to them.I just know them.
So do you mean that to understand deeply how Gauss makes his law I need to grasp Maxwell's equations and the divergence theorem? and it is mostly a theoretical work?
 
One of the most important formulas you get out of electromagnetism is the coulomb force F = kQq/r^2 where k = 1/(4πε0), from that fact we define the electric field to be E = kQ/r^2, where you can notice the inverse square, 1/r^2 if you sketck the electric field R/r^3, it seems to be just divergent in any point but, when applying the formula of divergence, you'll be shocked that it's exactly zero, by the time the delta function was born it became widely known that this isn't quite true and ∇.(R/r^3) = δ3(r), r is the position, so ∇.E = 4πδ3(r)*kQ, by the definition of k ∇.E = Qδ3(r)/ε0, so ∫∫∫∇.EdV = ⊂∫∫⊃E.dS, this is the gauss's famous divergence theorem, ∫∫∫∇.E dV = Q/ε0*∫∫∫δ3(r)dV = Q/ε0*1, so the flux Φ = ⊂∫∫⊃E.dS = Q/ε0,Cheers
 
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