General question about E-L in revativity

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Hello! I ask this question in this forum because I wish to be given a general explanation.
Hope it is OK

given this metric:
ds^2= \frac {dt^2} {t^2}- \frac{dx^2} {t^2}
I wish to calculate the geodesics.

S=\int{ \frac {d} {d\lambda} \sqrt{\frac {1} {t^2} \frac {dt^2} {d\lambda^2}- \frac{1} {t^2} \frac {dx^2} {d\lambda^2}}}

But \lambda here, is any parameter I choose. Therefore, L does not depend on it (right? )
So now I want to use E-L equations:

\frac {d}{dλ}\frac {∂L}{∂\dot t}=\frac {\partial L} {∂t}, <br /> \frac {d} {dλ}\frac {∂L} {∂\dot x} =\frac {\partial L} {∂x}

When \dot t refers to \frac {dt} {d\lambda} etc.
But here I get confused:
What does L depend on?
I'll continue my solution:

\frac {d} {dλ} 0.5 ({{\frac {{\dot t}^2} {t^2}-\frac {{\dot x}^2} {t^2}}})^{-0.5} 2 \frac {\dot t} {t^2}= \frac {\partial L} {\partial x}

As I stated, L does not depend on lambda, and so:

\frac {d} {d\lambda} {[\frac {\dot t} {t^2}]}^2 = \frac {{\dot t}^2-{\dot x}^2} {t^3}
So how am I supposed to derive this? Do I add another dot?
\frac {d} {d\lambda} \dot t = \ddot t ? and do I refer to it as an operator? Meaning- \ddot t = {\dot t}^2?

How do I continue? These calculations on classical mechanics were so trivial to me- but for some reason I get lost in here...
Thank you!
 
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