General Question About Trig Substitutions (integration)

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The discussion revolves around the topic of trigonometric substitutions in calculus, specifically focusing on integrals involving expressions of the form \(\sqrt{a^2 - x^2}\). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the justification for the substitution \(x = a \sin(\theta)\) and seeks clarification on the reasoning behind this method.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to reason why \(x\) can be expressed as \(a \sin(\theta)\) by considering the constraints imposed by the square root function. Other participants affirm this reasoning and discuss the implications of the sine function's range.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the rationale behind trigonometric substitutions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between \(x\) and \(a\) through the sine function, but there is no explicit consensus on the original poster's concerns.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the conditions under which the substitution is valid, particularly the requirement that \(|x| \leq |a|\) for real solutions. The original poster expresses frustration with the lack of explanation in the textbook.

Saladsamurai
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So I am trying to get a section ahead in my calsulus text and I am at Trig substitutions.

It says, "To start we will be concerned with integrals that contain expressions of the form [tex]\sqrt {a^2-x^2}[/tex] where a is positive and real...etc"

The idea is to eliminate the radical. For the above example they start by saying "we can make the substitution [tex]x=a\sin\theta[/tex] " ...and then they give

absolutely no justification for using [tex]a\sin\theta[/tex]. To me that is like saying "well instead of building that house out of wood, let's use cheese instead."

Now this is what I have reasoned out. Would someone please let me know if I am on the right track:

Since it is the sqrt function, then the term x^2 must be less than or equal to a^2 in order to have a real solution. Since a is a positive real number, than the product a*sin(theta) must equal x for some angle theta.

Thanks,
Casey
 
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If |x|<=|a| then x can be written as a*sin(theta) for some angle theta. I don't see what is bugging you.
 
Dick said:
If |x|<=|a| then x can be written as a*sin(theta) for some angle theta. I don't see what is bugging you.

Well, for starters, ^^^that's exactly what I wrote, isn't it:rolleyes: so that is what's bugging me right now.

Casey

p.s. I don't like texts who just say "this is the way it is and that's that."
 
If you want to know why, then sin(theta) assumes all values between -1 and 1. So if |x|<=|a|, you can find a value of theta. It's just a change of variables.
 
So I had it when I said:

Saladsamurai said:
Since it is the sqrt function, then the term x^2 must be less than or equal to a^2 in order to have a real solution. Since a is a positive real number, than the product a*sin(theta) must equal x for some angle theta.

Thanks,
Casey

I assume this same concept will apply to the other trig subs as well.

Thanks,
Casey
 
Yes, I guess I wasn't quite sure what the question was.
 
Dick said:
Yes, I guess I wasn't quite sure what the question was.

There isn't one.

Casey
 

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