General questions on Maxwell equations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the applicability of Maxwell's equations in different media, specifically comparing free space (vacuum) to simple media like the atmosphere and wood. Participants are exploring how the properties of these media affect the equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether Maxwell's equations for free space hold true for simple media such as the atmosphere, suggesting that simple media could be defined as those that do not interfere with electric and magnetic fields.
  • Another participant notes that for materials with similar values of permeability (μ) and permittivity (ε) to free space, such as air, the equations remain applicable.
  • A different participant seeks clarification on whether the formulas change when transitioning from free space to simple media, indicating uncertainty about the impact of material properties.
  • One participant asserts that Maxwell's equations apply to all media, highlighting that the μ and ε terms differ between materials and can be either real (lossless) or complex (lossy).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Maxwell's equations to various media, with some suggesting that the equations remain valid under certain conditions while others seek clarification on how material properties affect the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the values of μ and ε without providing specific numerical examples, and the discussion does not resolve how these values influence the equations in practical scenarios.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for exams in electromagnetism, individuals interested in the application of Maxwell's equations in different media, and those exploring the properties of materials in relation to electric and magnetic fields.

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yo !

quick question on jc maxwell, got an exam coming up and was wondering

see attached

these are the equations for free space (vacuum) and i was wondering if these will still hold for simple media such as plain old atmosphere (the breathable kind). following this can simple medium be defined as anything that won't interfere with electric/magnetic fields eg (wood)

thanks and i know its minus crack ! :smile:
 

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commelion said:
yo !

quick question on jc maxwell, got an exam coming up and was wondering

see attached

these are the equations for free space (vacuum) and i was wondering if these will still hold for simple media such as plain old atmosphere (the breathable kind). following this can simple medium be defined as anything that won't interfere with electric/magnetic fields eg (wood)

thanks and i know its minus crack ! :smile:

Look at the values of μ and ε; for stuff that has the same or nearly same values, no difference. That includes air. For other materials, not so much (e.g. wood).
 
ok i know this the values are very close together in comparision to, feromagnetic material, so then do the formula alter from free space to simple media or not ?
 
The Maxwell's Equation apply to all media. Just the μ and ε terms are different. These two terms can be real ( lossless) or complex ( lossy).
 

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