Geometric Progression: Calculating the nth Partial Sum

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The discussion revolves around calculating the nth partial sum of the series 1 - x + x^2 - x^3 + ... Participants express confusion about the correct formula and substitution process, particularly when they incorrectly drop the first term in the summation. The correct approach involves using the formula for the sum of a geometric series, ensuring to start the index at zero to include the first term. Additionally, there is a side discussion on the divergence of the series ∑(1/(n+1)), clarifying that it can be compared to the divergent series ∑(1/n) without needing a formal comparison test. The overall focus is on correcting the summation method for the alternating series and understanding convergence properties.
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what is the nth partial sum of

1-x+x^2-x^3+..

i don't understand why i can't do this?

i have \sum_{k=1}^{n} ar^k=\frac{a(r^{n+1}-r)}{r-1}

ok but then when i sub in i get messed up i get \frac{(-x)^{n+1}+x}{-(1+x)} is there any way of simplifying this? also when i set n=1 i get that the sum is -x when it should be 1-x?
 
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Do you know how to derive the nth partial sum of 1 + x + x^2 + ... ?
 
off the top of my head isn't it something like

(1-x)(1+x+x^2+...+x^n)=1-x^{n+1} \Rightarrow 1+x+x^2+...+x^n=\frac{1-x^{n+1}}{1-x}
 
also, another thing I'm having trouble seeing is why \sum \frac{1}{n+1} diverges.
my initial instinct was to use the copmarison test with \sum \frac{1}{n} as this diverges.

so if i can show \frac{1}{1+n} \geq \frac{1}{n} then all is well but in fact \frac{1}{n} \geq \frac{1}{1+n} e.g. set n=1 to see

what's going on here?
 
latentcorpse said:
off the top of my head isn't it something like

(1-x)(1+x+x^2+...+x^n)=1-x^{n+1} \Rightarrow 1+x+x^2+...+x^n=\frac{1-x^{n+1}}{1-x}
How can you modify this so that it works for 1 - x + x^2 - \cdots

latentcorpse said:
also, another thing I'm having trouble seeing is why \sum \frac{1}{n+1} diverges.
my initial instinct was to use the copmarison test with \sum \frac{1}{n} as this diverges.

so if i can show \frac{1}{1+n} \geq \frac{1}{n} then all is well but in fact \frac{1}{n} \geq \frac{1}{1+n} e.g. set n=1 to see

what's going on here?

There's no need for the Comparison Test. Just note that

\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{n + 1} = \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} + \cdots = \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{1}{n}
 
would it have a numerator of 1-(-1)^nx^{n+1}?
 
I don't know this of the top of my head, but if you write up what you did to get that, I can look it over.
 
latentcorpse said:
would it have a numerator of 1-(-1)^nx^{n+1}?
WHAT would? You started talking about
\sum_{i= 0}^n (-x)^i[/itex] <br /> and then changed to <br /> \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{1}{n+1}<br /> <br /> Are you back to the first question again?
 
latentcorpse said:
what is the nth partial sum of

1-x+x^2-x^3+..

i don't understand why i can't do this?

i have \sum_{k=1}^{n} ar^k=\frac{a(r^{n+1}-r)}{r-1}

ok but then when i sub in i get messed up i get \frac{(-x)^{n+1}+x}{-(1+x)} is there any way of simplifying this? also when i set n=1 i get that the sum is -x when it should be 1-x?

Looking at your equation right here, I notice one problem that would fix it rather quickly. When you tried to find the nth partial sum, you are took:

\sum_{k=1}^{n} (-x)^k

The only problem with this is that when n = 1, you get -x just like you got. You accidentally dropped the first term when you switched to sum notation. Just change it to:

\sum_{k=0}^{n} (-x)^k

This way, 1 is the first term. Your new equation is:

\sum_{k=0}^{n} a*r^k = \frac{a(r^{n + 1} - 1)}{r - 1}
 
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