Geometry Challenge: Prove $PT+PU\ge 2\sqrt{2}p$

  • Context: MHB 
  • Thread starter Thread starter anemone
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Challenge Geometry
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on proving the inequality \(PT + PU \ge 2\sqrt{2}p\) for a square \(PQRS\) with side length \(p\). Points \(A\) and \(B\) are located on sides \(QR\) and \(RS\) respectively, forming an angle of \(45^{\circ}\) at point \(P\). The intersections of line \(AB\) with sides \(PQ\) and \(PS\) are denoted as points \(T\) and \(U\). The participants engage in clarifying the proof and refining their arguments to ensure clarity and completeness.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic geometric concepts, particularly properties of squares.
  • Familiarity with angles and their relationships in geometric figures.
  • Knowledge of geometric inequalities and proof techniques.
  • Ability to visualize geometric configurations and intersections.
NEXT STEPS
  • Explore geometric inequalities in detail, focusing on the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality.
  • Study the properties of angles in geometric configurations, particularly in squares.
  • Learn about geometric proof strategies, including direct and indirect proofs.
  • Investigate applications of geometric principles in optimization problems.
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, geometry enthusiasts, and students preparing for mathematical competitions who are interested in geometric proofs and inequalities.

anemone
Gold Member
MHB
POTW Director
Messages
3,851
Reaction score
115
Suppose that $PQRS$ is a square with side $p$. Let $A$ and $B$ be points on side $QR$ and $RS$ respectively, such that $\angle APB=45^{\circ}$. Let $T$ and $U$ be the intersections of $AB$ with $PQ$ and $PS$ respectively. Prove that $PT+PU\ge 2\sqrt{2}p$.
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
anemone said:
Suppose that $PQRS$ is a square with side $p$. Let $A$ and $B$ be points on side $QR$ and $RS$ respectively, such that $\angle APB=45^{\circ}$. Let $T$ and $U$ be the intersections of $AB$ with $PQ$ and $PS$ respectively. Prove that $PT+PU\ge 2\sqrt{2}p$.
let $QA=QT=SU=SB=x$
where :$0<x<p$,then :$\angle APB=45^o$
by using $AM\geq GM$
if we can find $0<x<p$ and
$PT+PU=2(p+x)\geq 2\sqrt 2 p---(1)$ then the proof is done
the solution of (1) $x=(\sqrt 2-1)p$
 
Last edited:
Let $$\angle{QPA}=\angle{BPS}=22.5^{\circ}$$. Let $$V$$ be the intersection of $$\overline{PR}$$ and $$\overline{AB}$$. Note that $$\overline{PT}=\overline{PU}$$.

$$\triangle{AQT}\cong\triangle{AVR}\cong\triangle{BVR}\cong\triangle{BSU}$$ so $$\frac{\overline{PT}\cdot\overline{PU}}{2}=p^2$$.

$$\tan(22.5)=\frac{\overline{QA}}{p}=\sqrt{2}-1\implies\overline{PT}=\sqrt2p\implies\overline{TU}=2p$$.

$$\left(\overline{PT}+\overline{PU}\right)^2=\overline{PT}^2+4p^2+\overline{PU}^2=\overline{TU}^2+4p^2=8p^2\implies\overline{PT}+\overline{PU}=2\sqrt2p$$

Now, for any acceptable configuration of the problem:

$$\frac{\overline{PT}}{\overline{PU}}+\frac{\overline{PU}}{\overline{PT}}\ge2$$ (I can provide a proof of this, if necessary).

$$\frac{\overline{PT}^2+\overline{PU}^2}{\overline{PT}\cdot\overline{PU}}\ge2$$

$$\left(\overline{PT}+\overline{PU}\right)^2\ge4\left(\overline{PT}\cdot\overline{PU}\right)$$

with equality when $$\overline{PT}=\overline{PU}$$ hence

$$\overline{PT}+\overline{PU}\ge2\sqrt2p$$.
$$\text{ }$$
 
Hi Albert and greg1313,

Very well done! :cool: And thanks for participating!
 
I made an error in my post above. It's corrected below.

Let $$\angle{QPA}=\angle{BPS}=22.5^{\circ}$$. Let $$V$$ be the intersection of $$\overline{PR}$$ and $$\overline{AB}$$. Note that $$\overline{PT}=\overline{PU}$$.

$$\triangle{AQT}\cong\triangle{AVR}\cong\triangle{BVR}\cong\triangle{BSU}$$ so $$\frac{\overline{PT}\cdot\overline{PU}}{2}=p^2$$.

By the AM-GM inequality we have

$$\frac{\overline{PT}+\overline{PU}}{2}\ge\sqrt{\overline{PT}\cdot\overline{PU}}\implies\overline{PT}+\overline{PU}\ge2\sqrt2p$$

Hopefully that's correct. :)
 
Hi greg1313!

First off, I want to say sorry for I hastily said something that is purely wrong yesterday and I had deleted that nonsense reply. I have read your second submission thoroughly and yes, your second post is more easy to follow and your argument is complete.

Here is the solution of other that I want to share with MHB:
View attachment 4347
The circle centered at $P$ with radius $p$ has a tangent at $Q$, $S$. Let $AB'$ be the tangent at $H$ to the above circle. Then $PA$ is the bisector of $\angle QPH=\alpha$, $PB'$ is the bisector of $\angle HPS=\angle \beta$, and hence we have $\angle APB'=45^{\circ}$ because $\alpha+\beta=90^{\circ}$.

From this, we conclude that $B'=B$.

Thus,

$\begin{align*}PT+PU&=\dfrac{PH}{\cos \alpha}+\dfrac{PH}{\cos \beta}\\&=p\left(\dfrac{1}{\cos \alpha}+\dfrac{1}{\cos \beta}\right)\\& \ge p\left(\dfrac{2}{\sqrt{\cos \alpha \cos \beta}}\right)\\& \ge p\left(\dfrac{2}{\sqrt{\cos \alpha \cos (90^{\circ}-\alpha)}}\right)\\& \ge p\left(\dfrac{2}{\sqrt{\cos \alpha \sin \alpha}}\right)\\& \ge p\left(\dfrac{2\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{\sin 2\alpha}}\right)\\& \ge 2\sqrt{2}p\end{align*}$

Equality holds when $\alpha=\beta$, i.e. $\angle QPA=45^{\circ}$
 

Attachments

  • geometry challenge.JPG
    geometry challenge.JPG
    8.2 KB · Views: 121

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
902
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K