Getting the Arc Length Function

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The discussion revolves around understanding the Arc Length Function in calculus, particularly in relation to homework problems. The user is confused about using the standard arc length equation versus the new Arc Length Function introduced in class, specifically regarding the integration process and variable substitutions. They successfully solved a simpler in-class example but struggled with a homework problem that required additional substitutions, leading to an incorrect evaluation of zero for the arc length. Clarification is sought on the proper method for finding the arc length function and the use of variable changes in integration. The user expresses uncertainty about their approach and seeks guidance on correcting their mistakes.
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Getting the "Arc Length Function"

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I have two problems scanned, one is an in class example and one is from the homework. The book uses the standard arc length of a curve equation to get the answers. Later in the same chapter they introduce the Arc Length Function, using 's' for the parameter.

My professor instructed us to use the normal equation but also to find s(t). The in-class example was really easy, as we only had to integrate a constant. In the HW example, when I setup the integral I end up having to do a substitution, when I already did a substitution going from r(t) to r(u). My understanding is that going from r(t) to r(u) is not a real substitution, but merely a change of dummy variables. Anyways I tried it on the HW problem and once I get my s(t), I get zero for my length if I evaluate it over the given interval.

I'm afraid I didn't get a clear explanation on how to find the arc length function and the book isn't much help either. Thank you!

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The one I'm having issues is labeled #3 Sec 12.5, where I left it unevaluated.
 

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See attachment- there were two small errors. If the corrections don't make sense, let me know.
 

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Thanks, basic integration mistake!
 


Another basic question, so the general idea is to stick a 'u' where there is a 't' in the original function and integrate with respect to 'u', and make a secondary substitution as I did if it's needed?
 
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