Getting wrong answer in an (angular) impulse momentum problem

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The discussion revolves around an angular impulse momentum problem, where the original poster expresses confusion over repeated attempts yielding the same result. The problem involves a rod arrangement and considerations of its rigidity and joint type.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify their reasoning and the steps taken in their calculations. Some participants question the assumption of the rod arrangement being rigid and suggest considering a 'free joint' interpretation instead.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on interpreting the problem setup. The original poster acknowledges the feedback regarding the 'free joint' interpretation, which appears to have led to a correct understanding.

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There is mention of forum rules regarding posting formats, including the preference for typed work and variable definitions. The original poster is new to the forum and expresses regret for not adhering to these guidelines initially.

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Homework Statement
Three masses m, 2m and 3m are connected by two massless and rigid rods
of length l which are currently perpendicular to each other, as shown in the
figure. If the masses initially travel at velocity u towards a vertical wall and
mass m undergoes a collision with the wall, determine the impulse delivered
by the wall to mass m if the final horizontal velocity of mass m is zero. There
is no friction between the wall and mass m. Assume that the tensions in the
rods are strictly longitudinal (because they are massless).
Relevant Equations
impulse = change in momentum
angular impulse = change in angular momentum
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I have tried this same approach three times and I got the same answer. I can't figure out what's wrong. Btw answer is 12mu/(3+cos2α)
And yes, sorry for my shitty handwriting. If you can't understand the reasoning behind any step then please let me know.
 
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Divya said:
sorry for my shitty handwriting
Forum rules state that images are for diagrams and textbook extracts. Please type in your working, preferably in LaTeX.
Also, it helps if you provide some explanation of your approach and define all variables.

It looks to me as though you are taking the rod arrangement as rigid. It only says initially a right angle. I would take it as having a free joint.

In my experience, it rarely gains anything to bother finding the mass centre of such an assemblage anyway.
 
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I am really sorry for not seeing the rules of forum before posting ( I am new here). Also thanks for your help. The 'free joint' interpretation gave the right answer.
 
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Divya said:
I am really sorry for not seeing the rules of forum before posting ( I am new here). Also thanks for your help. The 'free joint' interpretation gave the right answer.
well done
 

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