How is \(\phi - \varphi = \sqrt{5}\) derived in the context of the Golden Ratio?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the equation \(\phi - \varphi = \sqrt{5}\) using the definitions of the golden ratio, where \(\phi = \frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}\) and \(\varphi = \frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}\). The subtraction of these two expressions simplifies to \(\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2} - \frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}\), which leads to the cancellation of the constant terms, resulting in \(\sqrt{5}\). Participants clarify that the cancellation occurs because the fractions combine to yield \(\frac{\sqrt{5}}{2} + \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2} = \sqrt{5}\). The discussion emphasizes understanding the manipulation of fractions rather than simply canceling terms.
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Im working on a part off my course and it covers this, but its not clear.

\phi= half (1+\sqrt{5})

\varphi=half (1-\sqrt{5})The question asks \phi-\varphi =\sqrt{5}

It is written in my book, the answer but it does not explain how the maths cancels and manipilates.

Could you show me a way that the answer is derived.
 
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What do you get if you try and calculate \phi-\varphi ?
 
the question also say's use the exact forms of each form off the golden ratio to verify the following propertys of\phi and \varphi
 
half (1+\sqrt{5}) -half(1-\sqrt{5})

= half \sqrt{5}+half \sqrt{5}= \sqrt{5}

Is the answer i have in my book but I am lost to how and why its that way.
 
Which part confuses you? The fact that the 1/2 - 1/2 = 0 or the fact that 1/2*sqrt(5) + 1/2*sqrt(5) = sqrt(5)?
 
its the part that makes the 1/2 -1/2 =0 why is the 1+sqrt(5) and the 1-sqrt (5) taken out off the equation what dicided this.
 
half(1+sqrt(5))=(1+sqrt(5))/2=1/2+sqrt(5)/2.
half(1-sqrt(5))=(1-sqrt(5))/2=1/2-sqrt(5)/2. Subtract them.
 
Or would it help to write it as
\frac{1+ \sqrt{5}}{2}= \frac{1}{2}+ \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}
 
so the 2's cancels out but does that not leave it as it was.
 
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\phi = \frac{1+ \sqrt{5}}{2}

\varphi = \frac{1- \sqrt{5}}{2}

Therefore, \phi - \varphi = \frac{1+ \sqrt{5}}{2} - \frac{1- \sqrt{5}}{2}

If you cannot understand how to simplify this to get your answer of \sqrt{5} then maybe manipulating the fractions in the same way hallsofivy has done will help you out.

\frac{1+ \sqrt{5}}{2} - \frac{1- \sqrt{5}}{2} = \frac{1}{2}+ \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2} - (\frac{1}{2} - \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2})
 
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morbello said:
so the 2's cancels out but does that not leave it as it was.

I wouldn't use the word "cancel": for any number a,
\frac{a}{2}+ \frac{a}{2}= a(\frac{1}{2}+ \frac{1}{2})= a(\frac{2}{2}= a(1)= a[/itex] <br /> It&#039;s just a matter of &quot;one plus one equals 2&quot;!
 
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