Gold's absorbance of blue light

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The discussion revolves around the absorbance of blue light by gold foil, specifically focusing on its ability to absorb light at around 470nm and the implications of using polished gold for this purpose. Participants explore the theoretical limits of absorption, reflection, and the practical applications of gold in filtering light.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that polished gold foil can absorb around 62% of blue light at 470nm and questions whether it can absorb 1 watt of this light.
  • Another participant asserts that the foil will overheat at some point and suggests that it cannot absorb 100 watts of light.
  • A different participant raises the concern that most of the light may be reflected rather than absorbed.
  • One participant references a study showing reflectance curves for gold, silver, and aluminum, suggesting that the absorption characteristics may not be as expected.
  • It is noted that the thickness of the gold foil affects its absorption and transmission properties, with thin films appearing green and thicker films leading to reduced transmission.
  • Another participant emphasizes that polishing the surface increases reflectance, which reduces light absorption, and mentions that the ability to absorb 1 watt depends on the power of the light source.
  • One participant points out that while gold absorbs blue to green light, it reflects light in the reddish part of the spectrum, questioning the effectiveness of gold for filtering blue light while transmitting other wavelengths.
  • Suggestions are made for alternative filtering options, such as color glasses and multilayered filters, which may provide better performance for specific transmission needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of gold foil for absorbing blue light, with some questioning its ability to absorb significant amounts of light due to reflection and thickness considerations. There is no consensus on the practical limits of absorption or the best methods for filtering light.

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The discussion highlights the dependence of light absorption on the thickness of the gold foil and the power of the incident light source. There are unresolved questions regarding the optimal use of gold for light filtering and the implications of surface polishing on absorption and reflection.

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How many watts of <500nm light can 1 square centimeter of gold foil absorb? Is there a limit?
I have a LED light, which has a strong spectral peak around 470nm, and a broad emission spectrum in the deep red and infrared. I want to block most of the blue peak, and gold will absorb around 62% of this blue light. Will a polished gold foil surface of 1 cm2 be able to absorb 1 watt of this light?
And out of curiosity; is there a limit to this? Will it be able to absorb 100 watts of this light? Thanks!
 
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At some point the foil will overheat. Apart from that: No.
 
Won’t most of the light be reflected?
 
I'm surprised but apparently not:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Reflectance-curves-of-silver-Ag-gold-Au-and-aluminium-Al-For-optical-coating-By_fig1_233814472
 
It depends on the thickness of the gold foil. If you have a thin film of gold (say a few nm thick), it will appear green (by transmission). For silver, this would be more blue. When the thickness is macroscopic one loses almost entirely the transmission, of course.

Will a polished gold foil surface of 1 cm2 be able to absorb 1 watt of this light?
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If you polish the surface, you will increase its reflectance, thereby reducing light absorption. What's more, the "1 W" that you quote, entirely depends on the power of the source, or the incident light's power. It certainly is possible, given a strong enough light source, but I guess the light source is not something tweakable?
 
While gold is most absorbing in the blue to green, a thin foil will also be most transparent in this region. In the reddish part of the spectrum, almost all of the light will be reflected.
 
Martwilk said:
Summary: How many watts of <500nm light can 1 square centimeter of gold foil absorb? Is there a limit?

I want to block most of the blue peak, and gold will absorb around 62% of this blue light.
And what do you want to do with the remaining light?
It seems to me that you want to filter out blue light and transmit the rest. Using gold isn't a good idea; it will absorb blue light but reflect longer wavelengths, i.e. red, orange, green.
There are other options available: color glasses which have a specific transmission curves, for more accurate filtering there multilayered filters. They are specifically designed to provide rejection of some light while transmitting another.
 

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