Quantifying the Unknown: Understanding the Universe Through Numbers

[wolram]

For knocking the FTLT thread on the head, but i wonder whos fault all this mumbo jumbo can be attributed to, i could google but i am to tiered and it is only a passing interest.

 

[heartless]

Wolram, this mumbo jumbo or however you prefer to hear is due to views of many string theorists on such matter. I've seen talks like that in Brian Greene's "elegant universe" and especially Michio Kaku enjoys talking about these fantasies. AFAIR, there was even an article in some issue of scientific american about time travels using wormholes, etc and discovery magazine (or something like that). Later people take this for real. (I will but only when humans become able to leave solar system, and find real wormholes, not just theoretizing about their existence.

By the way, I can scarcely understand your personality. While others' seem so clear, I have no idea about yours. Guess why it happens :)

 

[Danger]

Heartless, there was indeed an article in SciAm about the subject. The main point of it, however, was that sustaining a wormhole large enough for any kind of ship to pass through would require a constant application of negative energy that would exceed the total energy content of the universe. That would put the issue squarely into the category of "ain't going to happen".

 

[wolram]

Heartless, i could rabbit on about the the tools that work so well on earth, buy may be not so well in the vacuum, this is not the place to dwell on my thoughts, maths is a good and bad tool, use it as you will , then tell me what is real and what is not.

 

[Evo]

I had to protect your rights to FTL travel Wolram.

Actually, as a question it wasn't bad, but I couldn't see anything positive coming out of it. I was just afraid of where it might head.

 

[Evo]

S.T, it wasn't a bad question, and I'm still divided on closing the thread. I have to commend you for not taking it wrong. You showed maturity and understanding.

BTW, welcome to PF, don't get discouraged, you'll learn a lot here.

 

[star.torturer]

no discouragement at all

i like learning

i don't take anything wrong, as long as people don't take anything i say wrongly, because i never say anything to offend/discourage anyone

 

[heartless]

I think sooner or later somebody would write that such discussions don't contribute to anyone's interest or knowledge before prior understanding of universe at a deeper level, and designing rockets or any kind of flying objects being able to exceed today's limits. So it'd just be plain fantasies, though being totally confident of oneself.

Heartless, i could rabbit on about the the tools that work so well on earth, buy may be not so well in the vacuum, this is not the place to dwell on my thoughts, maths is a good and bad tool, use it as you will , then tell me what is real and what is not.

Hehe :rofl: That's why I can almost never understand your thoughts. I just can't understand what you say! How would you say this in more simple way, so that a simpleton such as me could easily comprehend? What does 'to rabbit about something' mean?

Thanks Wolram :)

 

[wolram]

I had to protect your rights to FTL travel Wolram.

Actually, as a question it wasn't bad, but I couldn't see anything positive coming out of it. I was just afraid of where it might head.

Thanks Evo, the problem is these ideas will not go away, if you rid your self of them what is left?

 

[wolram]

I think sooner or later somebody would write that such discussions don't contribute to anyone's interest or knowledge before prior understanding of universe at a deeper level, and designing rockets or any kind of flying objects being able to exceed today's limits. So it'd just be plain fantasies, though being totally confident of oneself.



Hehe :rofl: That's why I can almost never understand your thoughts. I just can't understand what you say! How would you say this in more simple way, so that a simpleton such as me could easily comprehend? What does 'to rabbit about something' mean?

Thanks Wolram :)[/QUOTE

I mean that all our understanding of the u comes from some numbers, if you were a fish what numbers could you come with to discribe your enviroment?