GR, small expansion, (perihelion derivation)

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The discussion revolves around a derivation related to General Relativity, specifically focusing on the transition between two equations in a small expansion context. Participants are examining the mathematical steps involved in this derivation, particularly concerning the use of trigonometric identities and Taylor series expansions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the transition from one equation to another, expressing confusion about the application of Taylor expansions to sine and cosine functions in the context of small parameters. Some participants suggest using trigonometric identities, while others question the appropriateness of expanding certain variables.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and exploring different interpretations of the mathematical steps involved. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the application of expansions and identities, but no consensus has been reached regarding the specific approach to take.

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There is an emphasis on the distinction between the small parameter lambda and the variable phi, which is causing some confusion in the application of the trigonometric identities and expansions. Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem as they seek to clarify their understanding.

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Hi I am looking at the attached as part of the derivation and am stuck on how we go from 18 to 19

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I'm pretty stuck. Lambda is small and not sin so can't see why one would expand out sine in a Taylor, though this seems to be one of the only possibilities I can see and then using a cosines trigomemtric identity, think this would also need expanding out both sin and cos as functions off phi And then regathering for the use of the cosine identity. However as I said small lambda not phi so don't really understand

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Hint: Use a trigonometric identity.
 
Orodruin said:
Hint: Use a trigonometric identity.
My attempt mentioned this. So it's not cos ( a + b ) ? As I've said above, we are expanding small lambda not phi, so don't really understand how this would apply. Ta .
 
binbagsss said:
So it's not cos ( a + b ) ? As I've said above, we are expanding small lambda not phi, so don't really understand how this would apply.
Yes it is. You only expand the functions where the phase is multiplied by ##\lambda##.
 
binbagsss said:
[...] small lambda not phi so don't really understand

Alternate hint #1: To see that (18) does indeed imply (19), expand the cos in (19) as a Taylor series in ##\lambda##.

Alternate hint #2: If you didn't already know (19), do as Orodruin suggested, and then consider ##~\cos(\lambda) \approx ~?~## and ##~\sin(\lambda) \approx ~?~##.
 
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