Graphical meaning of tangent in optimization problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the graphical meaning of the tangent line in the context of an optimization problem involving the function y(x2)/(x2-x1). Participants explore the logical reasoning behind this graphical representation, considering various mathematical approaches such as calculus, algebra, and geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding the logical steps that connect the tangent line to the solution of the optimization problem.
  • Another participant questions whether all necessary information has been provided, suggesting that the curve resembles y = x2.
  • A clarification is made regarding the notation used for x1 and x2, indicating they refer to x_1 and x_2.
  • A participant notes that without information on y(x) or x1, it is impossible to provide a definitive answer, but proposes that if y = x2, the problem becomes solvable by minimizing x2/(x-x1) and suggests using the derivative to find critical points.
  • One participant offers additional resources or information, though the specifics are not detailed in the excerpt.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the sufficiency of information and the assumptions necessary for solving the optimization problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to missing assumptions about the function y(x) and the values of x1 and x2, which affect the ability to derive a solution.

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In a trivial optimization problem, when seeking the value of x2 that minimizes y(x2)/(x2-x1), the solution is graphically given by the tangent line shown in the figure.

I'm having a lot of difficulty understanding why this is true, i.e., the logical steps behind the equivalence supporting the solution, either via calculus, algebraic, or geometric reasoning.
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Are you sure that you have given all information? The curve looks suspiciously like y = x2.
 
@Svein: Sorry, x1 and x2 mean x_1 and x_2.
 
nigels said:
seeking the value of x2 that minimizes y(x2)/(x2-x1)
If we have no information on y(x) or on x1, it is impossible to answer. If we assume y = x2, it is at least possible: Minimize x2/(x-x1). Assuming that it exists, use the rule for deriving a fraction and see if it can be equal to 0.
 
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