Gravitational acceleration comparison

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The discussion focuses on deriving the difference in gravitational acceleration between two distances from a gravitating object, specifically comparing distances "r" and "r+l." The gravitational acceleration formula GM/r^2 is used, and participants emphasize the importance of understanding the Binomial expansion for small values of "l" compared to "r." The derived result shows that the difference in acceleration can be approximated as (2GM/r^3)l when "l" is much smaller than "r." Participants also discuss how to apply this derivation to specific cases involving a neutron star and a black hole, highlighting the need for a solid grasp of gravitational concepts. Understanding these principles is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


Suppose an object of length “l” is located a distance “r” from a gravitating object of mass “M.” From physics you will learn that the gravitational acceleration is GM/r^2. Derive the difference in gravitational acceleration between distance “r” and distance “r+l” from the object. Show that as long as “l” is small compared to “r” (i.e., r >>l), the result is (2GM/r^3)l. Calculate this difference for the following two cases. What would happen to each person?

a). A person of height l=170 cm located r=1000 km from a 1.5 MSun neutron star.

b). The same person a distance 10^10 km (i.e., the width of a Solar System) from a 10^9 MSun black-hole as could be present in the nucleus of a typical galaxy.

Homework Equations


GM/r^2
(2GM/r^3)l

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought the difference would just be GM/(r+l)^2 - GM/r^2, and if l was small enough as compared to the other values the difference would be virtually 0. I don't know how the (2GM/r^3)l is derived and that's where I'm stuck. For the two people, would the given values be plugged into the regular gravitational acceleration equation or the one derived for the difference?
 
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You need go be able to make an effort at solving the problem yourself. If necessary, by revising the course material on which the question is based. Do you really know nothing about gravity?
 
PeroK said:
Welcome to PF!

You need go be able to make an effort at solving the problem yourself. If necessary, by revising the course material on which the question is based. Do you really know nothing about gravity?
I edited to include my initial thought process.
 
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Ellie Snyder said:
GM/(r+l)^2 - GM/r^2
Put that over a common denominator and keep solving... :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Put that over a common denominator and keep solving... :smile:
Do you mean give the two terms a common denominator of r^2(r+l)^2, which yields (r^2-(r+l)^2)/(r^2(r+l)^2)?
Or do you mean put that entire thing over some common denominator?
 
Ellie Snyder said:
Do you mean give the two terms a common denominator of r^2(r+l)^2, which yields (r^2-(r+l)^2)/(r^2(r+l)^2)?
Or do you mean put that entire thing over some common denominator?

Do you know about the Binomial expansion for negative powers? That's usually the trick in these cases where you have one variable ##<<## another. That's almost certainly what you're expected to use here.

Note that ##\frac{GM}{r^2} > \frac{GM}{(r+l)^2}## so I would set ##a = \frac{GM}{r^2} - \frac{GM}{(r+l)^2}## so you get a positive difference. Then hit this with the Binomial theorem.
 
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