Gravitational Forces Question Tricky

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The problem involves two planets with masses M and m, where the ratio M/m=25, and a point P located between them at a distance x from M. The gravitational forces at point P due to both planets are equal in magnitude, and the objective is to determine the value of x.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about whether the problem can be solved with the given information, with one participant noting the emergence of a quadratic equation in their attempts. There is discussion about the correct formulation of the gravitational force equation and the necessity of including three masses in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the setup and the equations used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the quadratic equation, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or interpretation of the problem.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the gravitational force equation and the roles of the masses involved, as well as the implications of the mass of the object being considered at point P.

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Homework Statement



Two planets have masses M and m, and the ratio M/m=25. The distance between the planets is R. The Point P, is between the planets as shown (there is no picture though), and the distance between M and P is x. At P, the gravitational forces on an object due to M and m are equal in magnitude. What is x?

Homework Equations


F = (G*M*m)/R^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I am stumped. Can you really figure this out with the info given? I ended up with some quadratic equation: 0 = 25R^2 - 50Rx + 24x^2
 
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XcKyle93 said:

Homework Statement



Two planets have masses M and m, and the ratio M/m=25. The distance between the planets is R. The Point P, is between the planets as shown (there is no picture though), and the distance between M and P is x. At P, the gravitational forces on an object due to M and m are equal in magnitude. What is x?

Homework Equations


F = (G*M*m)/R

The Attempt at a Solution


I am stumped. Can you really figure this out with the info given? I ended up with some quadratic equation: 0 = 25R^2 - 50Rx + 24x^2

Two things -- your equation that you list is not quite right. And the 2nd "m" in the equation is meant to be the mass of an object a distance R away from a mass M. You will need to have three masses listed in your initial equations (the object's mass will cancel out).
 
XcKyle93 said:
I am stumped. Can you really figure this out with the info given? I ended up with some quadratic equation: 0 = 25R^2 - 50Rx + 24x^2
Stumped? Looks to me like you figured it out just fine. Now just solve the quadratic!
 
I accidentally type the inverse square law incorrectly, but I edited my initial post to fix that. Why would I need three masses if the mass of the object cancels out?
 
Doc Al said:
Stumped? Looks to me like you figured it out just fine. Now just solve the quadratic!

Alright, awesome, I was just unsure of myself. Thanks!
 
XcKyle93 said:
I accidentally type the inverse square law incorrectly, but I edited my initial post to fix that. Why would I need three masses if the mass of the object cancels out?

My point was that M and m are listed in the problem as the masses of the two planets. That doesn't fit the equation that you wrote.
 
Perhaps I should have used slightly different variables for the equation that I wrote down; it was meant to be a general formula.
 

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