Gravitational potential energy from ∞ to r

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The discussion focuses on calculating the change in gravitational potential energy by determining the work done by gravitational force when moving a mass from infinity to a distance r from another mass. The student struggles with proving the negative value of gravitational potential energy and suspects an error in the dot product calculation. Clarifications reveal that the notation used was incorrect, as the magnitude of displacement (dr) is always positive, leading to confusion in the integral's limits. The correct understanding emphasizes that the work done by gravitational force is positive when moving inward, resulting in a negative potential energy value. The student gains clarity on the proper application of the work integral and the signs involved in the calculations.
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Hello, I'm a high school student studying for the AP Physics test tomorrow. I've been having trouble proving the negative value of gravitational potential energy through working out the work integral. I will greatly appreciate any help and clarification.

Homework Statement



Find the change in gravitational potential energy ##\Delta U## by calculating the work done by the gravitational force to bring a particle of mass ##m_2## from infinity, to a position at a distance ##r## from another particle of mass ##m_1##

Homework Equations



$$\begin{align}\Delta U&=-W\\ U_r-U_\infty&=-W_G \\ W_F &=\int\vec{F}\cdot d\vec{r}\\ W_G &=\int^r_\infty \vec{F_G}\cdot d\vec{r} \end{align}$$

The Attempt at a Solution



$$\begin{align}\vec{F_G}\cdot d\vec{r} &=-\frac{Gm_1 m_2}{r^2}\hat r\cdot -d\vec r\\ &=\frac{Gm_1 m_2}{r^2} dr\\ W_G &=Gm_1 m_2 \int^r_\infty \frac{dr}{r^2} \\&=Gm_1 m_2 \Big ( \frac1 \infty - \frac1 r\Big )\\ &=-\frac {Gm_1 m_2}{r}\\ U_\infty&=0 \\ U_r&=\frac {GMm}{r}\end{align}$$

Of course the answer should be negative, since ##\vec F_G## does positive work in moving a particle inwards from an infinite distance. The calculation works out fine when I move a particle from an arbitrary distance ##r## to ##\infty##, but not the other way around. I suspect that I may be working out the dot product wrong in the work equation. The way I see it is that both ##d\vec r## and ##\vec F_G## are in the negative radial direction, so their dot product is positive. Is the infinitesimal ##d\vec r## intrinsically always positive even if the displacement is in the negative radial direction?
 
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You suspicion is correct. In fact, many people get confused about this.

First of all, note that you abused notation: you can't equate ##\vec{F}_G \cdot d\vec{r} ## with ## \vec{A} \cdot -d\vec{r} ## because you can't have ## d\vec{r} = - d\vec{r} ##.

Then you ditched ## d\vec{r} ## and introduced ## dr ##, which apparently denotes the magnitude of ##d\vec{r}##, which is always positive by definition. But then the subsequent integral does not make sense, because it ranges from a greater bound to a lower one, thus implying ##dr## is negative.

That's how you got the wrong sign.
 
I understand now, thank you very much voko!
 
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