Gravitational Potential energy Problem

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A projectile is launched vertically from Earth's surface at 3.1 km/s, and the discussion focuses on calculating its maximum height while neglecting air drag. The equations of energy conservation are applied, including kinetic and gravitational potential energy. A key correction is made regarding the gravitational potential energy formula, specifically the exponent on the radius. An alternative approach is suggested to simplify the calculation using known values for Earth's mass and radius. The conversation concludes with the participant feeling confident in their understanding and next steps for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


A projectile is fired vertically from Earth's surface with an initial speed of 3.1 km/s. Neglecting air drag, how far above the surface of Earth will it go?

Homework Equations


KF+UF=KI+UF
U=-G(M1m2)/r2
K=1/2mv2
mass of Earth = 5.972E24
radius of Earth = 6371km
G=6.673E-11

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2mv2F+(-G(M1m2)/r2F=1/2mv20+(-G(M1m2)/r20

I can cancel the m because they're in every term so and final kinetic energy since it should be zero at max height.

(-GM1)/r2F=1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20

Next I try and get the rF by itself

(-GM1)=(1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20)*r2F

(-GM1)/(1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20)=r2F

√(-GM1)/(1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20)=rF

then I subtract rF from the initial r0 to get my answer.
Did I do this right?
 
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SnakeDoc said:

Homework Statement


A projectile is fired vertically from Earth's surface with an initial speed of 3.1 km/s. Neglecting air drag, how far above the surface of Earth will it go?

Homework Equations


KF+UF=KI+UF
U=-G(M1m2)/r2
K=1/2mv2
mass of Earth = 5.972E24
radius of Earth = 6371km
G=6.673E-11

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2mv2F+(-G(M1m2)/r2F=1/2mv20+(-G(M1m2)/r20

I can cancel the m because they're in every term so and final kinetic energy since it should be zero at max height.

(-GM1)/r2F=1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20

Next I try and get the rF by itself

(-GM1)=(1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20)*r2F

(-GM1)/(1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20)=r2F

√(-GM1)/(1/2v20+(-GM1)/r20)=rF

then I subtract rF from the initial r0 to get my answer.
Did I do this right?

I can tell you one thing that's wrong. ##\frac{-G M m}{r}## is potential energy. Your exponent on the ##r## is wrong.
 
Dick said:
I can tell you one thing that's wrong. ##\frac{-G M m}{r}## is potential energy. Your exponent on the ##r## is wrong.
Oh wow I guess I was looking the wrong equation in my notes thanks. I think I got it from here then thanks a lot!
 
Well done:
Note: You could get it all in one go from: $$\frac{1}{2}v^2 -\frac{GM}{R} = -\frac{GM}{(R+r)}$$... and solve for r, where R and M the radius and mass values are for the Earth.

Of course, GM/R^2 = g which is a nicer number to handle.
So the relation becomes: $$\frac{1}{2}v^2 -gR = -\frac{gR^2}{(R+r)}$$
 
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