Gravity - Effective distance of center of earth

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The discussion centers on the validity of treating the Earth as a point mass when calculating gravitational force. It explains that while a cubic mile of Earth just below the surface exerts a greater gravitational influence than one much deeper, the assumption holds due to the cancellation effects described by Newton's shell theorems. These theorems state that a uniform spherical shell of mass creates the same gravitational field as a point mass located at its center. Thus, the effective distance used in calculations remains valid despite the Earth's non-uniform density. This understanding is crucial for applying Newton's law of gravity accurately near the Earth's surface.
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To calculate the force of gravity from a distant body we assume the body is a point mass and it is therefore relatively easy to determine its effective distance. On the surface of the earth, the same formula is used and we use the radius of the Earth as the effective distance, thus we assume the Earth is a point mass at a distance of about 4000 miles.
But a cubic mile of Earth that is only 1 mile below the surface has a much greater effect than a cubic mile of Earth that is nearly 8000 miles below the surface. So how is it valid to assume the Earth is a point mass when we are so close to it?
 
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its because given uniform density you get cancelation of the affect on either side of the line of symmetry.

this is a proof of using Newtons law of gravity as a point mass for the Earth from my mechanics lectures

http://members.iinet.net.au/~housewrk/pointmass.jpg
 
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John Davis said:
But a cubic mile of Earth that is only 1 mile below the surface has a much greater effect than a cubic mile of Earth that is nearly 8000 miles below the surface. So how is it valid to assume the Earth is a point mass when we are so close to it?
Realize that a uniform spherical shell of mass m produces the same gravitational field as a point mass of mass m located at the center of the sphere. (This is one of Newton's shell theorems.) But that shell of Earth 1 mile below the surface is only one mile away from you at the near side--the other side is about 8000 miles away.
 
yeh he's right, sorry i should have mentioned that :P
clever mr mentor :)
 
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