Group Theory: Proving Non-Isomorphism of G_n and G_m

In summary, the conversation discusses the groups G_n and G_m, defined as {(a,b) in (C*) * C ; (a,b).(a',b')=( aa', b+(a^n)b' )} where n is a natural number. The conversation then goes on to show that if n and m are distinct, the groups G_n and G_m are not isomorphic. The hint suggests using a map from G_n to G_m to show this, and mentions that the two groups are actually semidirect products. The conversation concludes with a reference to exercise 10.2 in Representation Theory by Fulton and Harris.
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Hi all,

Consider the groups G_n= {(a,b) in (C*) * C ; (a,b).(a',b')=( aa', b+(a^n)b' )}
where n is in N. Show that if n and m are distinct, then the two groups G_n and G_m are not isomorphic.

Ps. In fact G_n = G/ nZ , where G is the group of pairs (t,s) in C * C with group law (t,s). (t',s')=(t+t',s+(e^t)s')

Hint. An isomorphism G_n ~ G_m would lift to a map from G to G, show that this map whould have to be an isomorphism.
(re. exercise 10.2 of Representation Theory by Fulton and Harris)


Many Thanks
 
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To use the hint, write down the corresponding two short exact sequences (the groups are semidirect products!) and then formulate what "lift" means and why you get two different structures on ##G##.
 

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