Group Velocity of EMW: Conditions \& Expression

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Homework Statement



Electromagnetic wave, with the frequency \omega, travels through the medium for which:
\epsilon=\epsilon_0\left(1+\frac{\omega_p^2}{\omega_0^2-\omega^2}\right)
where \omega_p and \omega_0 are constants. How does the expression for the group velocity v_g(\omega) looks like? What condition do the constants need to satisfy so that the relativity principle v_g\leq c should hold?


Homework Equations


The expression for group velocity of the traveling wave is v_g=\frac{d\omega}{dk}
where \omega is angular frequency and k is wave number (vector in 3D).


The Attempt at a Solution



The problem is I don't really know where to start. I have the expression for electric permittivity, and I don't know how to connect that with group velocity of the emw. Does anyone know how to start, and what to look? Thnx!
 
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You (should) know that the phase velocity is also found from

<br /> v_p=c\cdot n(\omega)<br />

Do you know of any relations between the dielectric permittivity you are given and the real refractive index n(\omega)?
 
We have learned that v_p=\frac{c}{n(k)}, and our substitute assistant said sth about:

k^2=\mu\epsilon\frac{\omega^2}{c^2}

And he said that that was form our general physics class when we learned about electricity and magnetism, but I really can't recall when and where did we learn that :\

EDIT: No, that first term I found in Jacson: Classical electrodynamics, and this problem is from general physics class (sth like 8.03 in MIT)
 
dingo_d said:
k^2=\mu\epsilon\frac{\omega^2}{c^2}

This is all you need to solve this problem...For most media, \mu\approx\mu_0, so I think that is a fair assumption to make here (Or at least assume that \mu is independent of \omega). After that, just substitute in your expression for \epsilon and find \frac{d\omega}{d k} through implicit differentiation of the above expression.

Side note: The above expression can be easily derived by looking at the fields of a plane wave (with wavenumber k and angular frequency \omega) and seeing what conditions are necessary for such fields to satisfy Maxwell's equations (or, equivalently, the wave equation) in a medium with permittivity \epsilon.
 
Whoops, I was thinking phase velocity and you wanted group velocity...
 
gabbagabbahey said:
This is all you need to solve this problem...For most media, \mu\approx\mu_0, so I think that is a fair assumption to make here (Or at least assume that \mu is independent of \omega). After that, just substitute in your expression for \epsilon and find \frac{d\omega}{d k} through implicit differentiation of the above expression.

Side note: The above expression can be easily derived by looking at the fields of a plane wave (with wavenumber k and angular frequency \omega) and seeing what conditions are necessary for such fields to satisfy Maxwell's equations (or, equivalently, the wave equation) in a medium with permittivity \epsilon.

Thank you very much! I'll do that! :)
 
Sorry, I just noticed your expression is actually incorrect...it should really be:

k^2=\mu\epsilon \omega^2=\mu_r\epsilon_r \frac{\omega^2}{c^2}

(And of course, this is only true for a non-conducting, source-free medium)
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Sorry, I just noticed your expression is actually incorrect...it should really be:

k^2=\mu\epsilon \omega^2=\mu_r\epsilon_r \frac{\omega^2}{c^2}

(And of course, this is only true for a non-conducting, source-free medium)

Yeah, because \mu =\mu_0\mu_r? Right? And \mu_0\epsilon_0=\frac{1}{c^2}...

EDIT: After I put my original eq. into the k^2=\mu\epsilon \omega^2=\mu_r\epsilon_r \frac{\omega^2}{c^2} I get quadratic equation for \omega_{1,2}^2. So I get my solutions and derive those with the respect to k?

v_g=\frac{d\omega}{dk}=\frac{1}{2\omega}\frac{d\omega^2}{dk}?
 
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dingo_d said:
Yeah, because \mu =\mu_0\mu_r? Right? And \mu_0\epsilon_0=\frac{1}{c^2}...

Yup.

EDIT: After I put my original eq. into the k^2=\mu\epsilon \omega^2=\mu_r\epsilon_r \frac{\omega^2}{c^2} I get quadratic equation for \omega_{1,2}^2. So I get my solutions and derive those with the respect to k?

v_g=\frac{d\omega}{dk}=\frac{1}{2\omega}\frac{d\omega^2}{dk}?

That's one way to do it (although \omega is positive by definition, so I suspect you can throw away one of your solutions), but I suggest an easier method is as follows:

k^2=f(\omega)\implies 2k=f&#039;(\omega)\frac{d\omega}{d k}\implies \frac{d\omega}{d k}=2\frac{\sqrt{f(\omega)}}{f&#039;(\omega)}
 
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gabbagabbahey said:
... I suggest an easier method is as follows:

k^2=f(\omega)\implies 2k=f&#039;(\omega)\frac{d\omega}{d k}\implies \frac{d\omega}{d k}=2\frac{\sqrt{f(\omega)}}{f&#039;(\omega)}

Oh, ok! :D So I put my expression for \epsilon in the k^2 expression and derive it, and I get my v_g=\frac{d\omega}{dk} immediately? That's great!

Thank you very much!

P.S. I thought about asking you about that last expression you got, but then I wrote it down and I figured how you got it :) Silly me :D

EDIT: I have solved it and it came out as:

v_g=\frac{d\omega}{dk}=\frac{(\omega_0^2-\omega^2)\sqrt{\varepsilon_0\mu\omega^2\left(1+\frac{\omega_p^2}{\omega_0^2-\omega^2}\right)}}{\varepsilon_0\mu\omega(\omega_0^4+\omega^4+\omega_0^2(\omega_p^2-2\omega^2))}

What conditions should \omega_p and \omega_0 satisfy so that my group velocity is smaller or equal than c? Do I solve the inequality?
 
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